Re: [marxmail] who to believe nyt or aj

"The Israeli hooligans chanted songs swearing at Arabs saying, "The are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left" Big mistake. 17% of Amsterdam are of Moroccan and Turkish descent. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Onlin

Re: [marxmail] where is the United front? Can you direct us?

Marxmailers in the US should have a bag by the door ready to flee north. "immigrants whether legal or illegal" No one is illegal, which implies that a person's existence is criminal. Mexicans use "con papeles o sin papeles" - with papers or without papers. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io L

Re: [marxmail] Trump's victory

Michael - " It was Latino men and white women" Me - That's what CNN wants us to believe, but it was the majority of white voters of both genders who elected Trump, who would rather cut off their own nose than let go of white supremacy and male privilege. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups

Re: [marxmail] Trump's victory

Walter - "Because Trump will be so much better?" //) Me - For the residents of Gaza, he won't be more evil. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#33352): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/33352 Mute This Topic: https://gr

Re: [marxmail] Trump's victory

Hats off to the Arab/muslim community for ending Harris's imperialistic, genocidal government. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#33350): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/33350 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/109427

Re: [marxmail] statement from Communist Party Venezuela

Charlie - "Maduros' solidarity activists like... Chris Slee cannot get beyond the two anti-working class blocs". / Me - We can add to Charlie's list the PCV comrades who were expelled by party boss Oscar Figuero, for not carrying his cliques' new party line - dump Maduro and join the r

[marxmail] Biden's gaffe could 'swing' election for Harris

Quien es mas macho? Asked about Trump's KKK rally at Madison Square Garden, street fighter Biden went off message and came out swinging, "The only garbage floating out there is Trump's supporters. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable" That's what the half million Puerto Ricans living in

[marxmail] Yes on proposition 4 on ending Florida's strict abortion law

Women aren't waiting another 50 years for Harris and her party to change the law. Ten states have abortion measures on their ballots. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#33290): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/33290 Mute T

[marxmail] Stalinists hiding things

Happy Halloween/Diwali, Hari. In future to avoid confusion I will refer to you as the anti revisionist Stalinist and to Charlie as the revisionist Stalinist. After reading your book length article about Venezuela and Maduro I still don't know what "real" Marxist/Leninists should do with him. I gue

Re: [marxmail] Venezuela's Maduro gives industry to Alex Saab

Hari Kumar - "better glasses to help you see" // Hi Hari, Do you think anti-revisionist lenses will help me see the light? ml currents doesn't say anything about Maduro. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#33243): https:/

Re: [marxmail] Venezuela's Maduro gives industry to Alex Saab

Charlie - "it is what communists do" Me - It is what Stalinists do. "The Communist Party of Venezuela expresses it's solidarity with the people of Syria and its government led by President Bashar Al Assad" -july 2020 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages s

[marxmail] Madison Square Garden speech by George Wallace, 1968

"We should never have gone to Vietnam by ourselves. We should have looked our allies in the face in Western Europe and our non-communist Asian allies and said... if you don't go and help us in Southeast Asia... we are not only going to cut off every dime of foreign aid you are getting but ask you t

Re: [marxmail] Kshama Sawant

David tells us that regarding Palestine, Trump is worse than Harris. That's a sick joke. The silver lining of a Trump win will be to shut up some of "The-sky-is-falling, Trump-is-a-fascist" devotees. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Re

Re: [marxmail] Yahya Sinwar, The Che Guevara of our Times (Necrology)

"when did Che Guevara organize the slaughter of thousands of civilians as a form of struggle?" Both the Paris communards and civil war era Bolsheviks weaponized hostages. To keep them in line, Trotsky took hostage the families of ex-imperial army officers recruited to his army. The Commu

Re: [marxmail] Gaza war: Israel's army has already lost the equivalent of twelve battalions

Mark - "[His comment] discusses strategy and tactics. That's different from manners, as any activist should know." me - Trotsky is using sarcasm, which he did so well. I don't know if Mark is being facetious or being a bonehead. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive al

[marxmail] October 12, dia de la raza

Columbus who? Rewriting the calendar of Latin America, Yucatan Times Oct 9 2024 "Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum reiterated her predecessor's demand that the king of Spain apologize for the genocide and exploitation of the conquest 500 years ago" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You

Re: [marxmail] Gaza war: Israel's army has already lost the equivalent of 12 battalions

Mark - "Killing and abducting non combatants... is not a liberation-struggle tactic" "It is difficult to teach the oppressed good manners. When provoked to fury they use clubs, stones, fire and the rope" - Trotsky, Their Morals and Ours Me - Labeling Hamas 'terrorist' mimi

Re: [marxmail] Israel's army has already lost the equivalent of twelve batallions

John - " I'm not sure what point you're trying to make Duane David isn't fond of the Gaza fighters, and I saw snark rather than concern for them in his question. I quoted rkob's description of them "courageous and selfless" in reply to his disrespect. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links:

[marxmail] Subject: Re: Israel:s army has already lost the equivalent of twelve battalions

David - ..and how many has Hamas lost? /// A battalion has about one thousand soldiers. Israel claims to have killed 17 thousand "courageous and selfless" Hamas fighters. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#32820): http

Re: [marxmail] lost in transition, from an lgbt unionist

Hi Andie I'm confused. You don't have an 'S' at the beginning of your AMAB. Did someone else do it for you? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#32813): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/32813 Mute This Topic: https://groups.

Re: [marxmail] campaigning to end the electoral college

David - "What would have happened with that 12% of the best of the German fascist army instead of sitting out of harm's way in France were turned around to face the Red army?" They would have been driven into the sea, the Red army would have occupied all of Europe, and there would ha

Re: [marxmail] Campaigning to end the electoral college

David - "The only way to actually win against the Nazis was a military alliance against them" me - David must have learned this from watching John Wayne's Saturday matinee war movies. The turning point of the war was the tank battle at Kursk during the summer of 1943, not the sidesho

Re: [marxmail] Campaigning to end the electoral college

David - "[The Trotskyists] dropped their anti-war rhetoric in the face of overall support by the working class" /// me - The leaders of the SWP were jailed during WW2 for opposing American imperialism. Socialists demanding the imperialists give their weapons to the Red Army fighting Nazi

Re: [marxmail] Campaigning to end the electoral college

Hi Marv - " I've never once said nor hinted that I am in favour of a program "which supports class collaboration" / To support in hindsight the ww2 imperialists who dropped the bomb on Japan is class collaboration . -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive

Re: [marxmail] [Mltlist] Marxism-Leninism Today Website Updated

*Thanks for the update, Abraham* */* ", it is cowardice not to respond to the lies that still surround Stalin and the Soviet Union". /// Why and How Stalin Hated Jews

Re: [marxmail] Discussion: The American Deal: Reframing the Economic Debate

Michael - "I don't know how many comrades on the list want to bother reading this... I post [Antonia's] argument here" /// Antonia's premise - "The Biden-Harris administration has been working people's best friend" // Me - Next time, God willing, I will heed Mike's cautionary advise

Re: [marxmail] tenth anniversary brings no closure to families of victims in mexico

"Once the investigation began to find a military role in the crimes President Lopez Obrador became disaffected and the government's cooperation began to wither" /// The corrupt judiciary, not amlo, is sabotaging the investigation, which is why he changed the constitution to be rid of those cr

Re: [marxmail] How the Powerful Outmaneuvered the American Protest Movement

" Those in power have figured out how to outmaneuver protesters:" / The masses organize with computers now, and Ion Musk provides the rope.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#32509): https://groups

Re: [marxmail] China: capitalist restoration and Marxist state theory

Mark - "I haven't worried about that in my lifetime but I have read about it. It was tiny leftist sects that attacked us 50 years ago." // The Maoists threw us out of their "make the rich pay" meetings a few times, but when I write "we" I am including those who went before us, when mass

Re: [marxmail] China: on Stalinism, capitalist restoration and Marxist state theory

Marv - "What's tragic is we no longer have even a flawed far-left alternative comparable to the mass communist parties of that period " It's not all bad. Stalin is dead and we no longer worry about mass Stalinist parties attacking us as we build our new org. /// "In

[marxmail] The great debate

Mark to sartesian - "But you just responded and are have wasted time" // Mark, is that you? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#32324): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/32324 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/1

[marxmail] justice mexican style

Sheinbaum: Justice in Mexico Strengthened With Judicial Reform orinocotribune.com Sept 14, 2024 "The president-elect of Mexico, Claudia Sheinbaum, has stated that the Senate approval of Judicial Reform that will establish the popular election of judges, magistrates, and the supreme court, starting

[marxmail] re "The great debate"

david - " there simply is no *mobilization* against Trump when he goes full dictator." In 2020 Trump ordered the national guard to clear Washington streets of George Floyd protestors. Shortly after, the pentagon revoked the order and sent them back to the barracks. Why? Because 1 in 4 African-Am

Re: [marxmail] pimping for Grover

"My general tendency is to avoid Stalin-Trotsky debates and have even ruled them out of order on marxmail since the inevitably lead to flame wars and have very little relevance to politics today" -louisproject.wordpress.com Joseph Stalin nostalgia, Sept 2009 /// me - F*ck the Stalin l

Re: [marxmail] some say China isn't imperialist

Gojko - "Marxists have essentially devolved into a discussion club" /// "I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member" - Marx, Groucho Gojko - "the left is failed" // "Trying is the first step to failure" - Homer, Simpson -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: [marxmail] Thesis on world perspectives... I

Marv - "They [the ball busting, bourgeois feminists] rarely if ever identify with their lower-income sisters" // Is Feminism No Longer the F-Word? - Canadian Women's Foundation

Re: [marxmail] Thesis on world perspectives...

Marv - "The identitarian movements have largely been driven by educated professionals I have no doubt the Trumpists would have had less success if these programs were aimed at all disadvantaged members of he working class" /// Hi Marv What l hear you saying: 50 years after the secon

Re: [marxmail] Theses on World Perspectives: In the Midst of a Cycle of Wars and Revolutions

marv - " The contradictory nature of identity politics has been reflected in the disputes within Marxism about whether it is fundamentally a healthy and progressive development or a regressive form of false consciousness... I suspect we would be divided on this list" ///

Re: [marxmail] Stand with Venezuelan working class under imperialist heal

Abrahim - "The Russian and Donbas advance stops at the Danube" /// Hi Abrahim Are you confusing the Danube River for another? My settler colonist ancestors rafted down the Danube River from Volhynia in the Black Forest to get to 'the Ukraine', now Moldova, when it was a colony of Imperi

Re: [marxmail] stand with Venezuelan working class under imperialist heal

Abrahim - "Those militias fought during 2014-2022 to repel the national chauvinists from Kyiv...with the help asked for from Russia." / Ukraine crisis: meeting the little green men - BBC.com, 30 April 2014 "I asked one of the armed "men in green" where he came from. "Ukraine", he repli

Re: [marxmail] stand with the Venezuelan working class under imperialist heal

Apparently, the owners of the multiracial unity blog also have a problem with Ukrainian workers resisting imperialist aggression - ",We must demand an end to any U S armaments and support the workers and soldiers of Russia and Ukraine turning their guns around on their own bestial leaders." -

[marxmail] Ukraine has foot on Gazprom's throat - CEPA.org, august 22, 2024

"Kiev's armed forces seized the critical Zudzha gas metering station inside Russia's Kursk region two weeks ago... The Kremlin needs Gazprom to maintain supplies to pro-Russian Slovakia and Hungary, where it offers cheaper gas as a quid pro quo to politically sympathetic governments. This is a cent

Re: [marxmail] Tony Greenstein's blog

Good read. Thanks for posting it, Abraham. "For Martin Luther once a Jew had converted to Christianity that was the end of it. Their soul was saved. For Hitler it was of no account if a Jew had been baptized. Once a Jew always a Jew"... "Some Zionists welcomed the advent of Hitler. Hayim Nachman

[marxmail] Re; All it says in Jill Stein's platform regarding Ukraine

Dr Abe - "What Ukraine solidarity? Does this mean solidarity with the Russian Ukrainians under fire since 2014?" Ukraine incursion destroys key Russian bridge - BBC News, two days ago "Zelensky said Ukrainian troops were strengthening their position in Kursk, and called the ca

Re: [marxmail] How close are the planet's climate tipping points?

There are two types of climate change denialists - those who say it isn't happening, and those who believe or hope global warming can be reversed. In fact, the tipping point was reached in the '70s (back when I was a geography student) when the permafrost began to thaw. And now most climate scient

[marxmail] Ukraine’s 'special military operation'

Politico - August 12, 2024 "This is serious,” Andrei Gurulev — a Russian lawmaker, member of Putin's United Russia party and a former deputy commander — wrote on Telegram on Monday. According to Gurulev, Russian border troops were the last to receive information about

Re: [marxmail] Paul Dobson of CP Venezuela reports

Woopy! The Stalinists betray another revolution. "if the contradiction between imperialism and Venezuela's national independence moves in favour of imperialism, this will weaken any attempt from the left to resolve the plethora of internal contradictions in favor of socialism. It is for this reas

Re: [marxmail] August 3 message from CP of Venezuela

"Allowing either of the two fractions of the bourgeoisie to impose itself... is a step in the consolidation of an authoritarian regime" // socialist worker.co.uk April 2006 The fascist invasion of Abassinia "In Britain a debate broke out on the left on what attitude to tak

Re: [marxmail] Venezuela: the end game?: Michael Roberts

orinocotribune.comPresident Maduro: Imperialism Co-Opted the Communist Party to Use it Against the Revolution January 17, 2024 The president of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, recalled that while the people suffered from the “economic genocide” imposed on the countr

Re: [marxmail] Does an increasing interest in Trotsky and Joseph Hansen within Ukraine indicate an abrupt left turn by a layer from fascism and Stalinism!

Does the Revolution Eat Its Children? leftvoice.org Nathaniel Flakin and Doug Enaa Greene July 11, 2023 An interview with historian Doug Greene about his new book on Stalinism, The Dialectics of Saturn. *... The most unhinged conspiracist theoris