Hi Elvis,
On 14/03/2023 08:42, Elvis Daniel Velea wrote:
Hi Massimo,
thank you for your message. Let me see if I have an answer to some of
your questions/comments. See inline.
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I also mention below a variation of this proposal, which could be it's
own proposal/thread (suggestions welcome):
There should be an easy way to do "temporary assignments" (which may or
may not be the correct term in this case) to researchers/developers,
starting from address space of a company which is "sponsoring" the
research.
The key part of what I would like to have is the possibility to provide
somebody with access to LIR portal services but limited to a specific
subset of my resources.
In general, a company is not going to support a research/experiment by
providing indiscriminate access to the LIR portal. Creating a new
LIR or
transferring prefixes is not a plausible solution in this context.
An existing LIR can do an assignment to a researcher/developer as we
speak. All assignments an LIR makes are ‘temporary’, some may last a day
and some may last 10 years…
Can you explain this better? I have been asking to several ncc contacts
and there was no suitable solution for this at the moment.
Asking researchers/developers to create their own LIRs so that resources
can be transferred is not a practical solution, but I'm not sure you are
referring to this. Giving the researcher/developer access to the LIR
portal/APIs for all the resources is also not a solution.
If you want the researcher to have access to services like RPKI, they
can ask their LIR. In some cases, maybe temporary transfers could also
be of use.
Again, I don't see a way to do this at the moment.
Note that this proposal aims to update the temporary assignment proposal
that is currently in place. The RIPE NCC makes these temporary
assignments from a pool of IPs they have reserved specifically for this
purpose.
I understand. This is why I said that this could be a different proposal
(even if related by a similar purpose). I changed the email subject to
avoid confusion.
Also, I believe this would remove the need for an approval procedure
from the RIPE NCC side: (1) if the address space used is of a company,
there is less need to validate the research project motivations; and
(2)
the company "sponsoring" is also the one responsible for the address
space.
I am not sure I understand what you mean by this. The NCC does not need
to approve any assignments made by LIRs. The NCC will need to approve
temporary assignments if the request is sent by an LIR (for an end-user)
based on the current temporary assignment policy.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Assignments done by LIRs of their own
resources do not require approval, while they would satisfy the research
use case (in summary: using prefixes from the ncc stash is not needed in
all cases).
Thanks for your answers.
Ciao,
Massimo
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