Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet connection

2016-12-20 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote: seems to me that's normal a user usually should not be allowed to chown or chmod a /dev/pts/... but I don't have a clue, why that's working on other people's machines. Well, then it seems that your system is even more botched than I suggested,

Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet connection

2016-12-20 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 01:13:58PM +0100, Joerg Thuemmler wrote: > chown("/dev/pts/1", 26, 5) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) 26 is a strange UID to use. Most Linux distros allocating new user UIDs start at 500 or 1000. Is the result different when using an account created

Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet connection

2016-12-20 Thread Joerg Thuemmler
Am 20.12.2016 um 11:45 schrieb Yury V. Zaytsev: On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote: thx. Do you know, how mc detects the shell? https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc/blob/0cc22928afbc6e23eb0fa5c85fd95518d8151edc/lib/shell.c It's in both cases (root and user) classical login with

Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet connection

2016-12-20 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote: thx. Do you know, how mc detects the shell? https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc/blob/0cc22928afbc6e23eb0fa5c85fd95518d8151edc/lib/shell.c It's in both cases (root and user) classical login with bash, never manipulated there anything... I

Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet connection

2016-12-20 Thread Joerg Thuemmler
Am 20.12.2016 um 09:35 schrieb Yury V. Zaytsev: On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote: Maybe it's a stupid, well known thing, but if I'm using a newer version of mc (e.g. 4.8.13) and I'm not root, I have no subshell, C-o works, but immediately vanishes if I press a key. Same thing with mc

Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet connection

2016-12-20 Thread Felix Miata
Joerg Thuemmler composed on 2016-12-20 08:19 (UTC+0100): ... I use Opensuse linuxes, but seems to me, it isn't related to this. How old is your openSUSE? Another thing is that mc start is delayed, if no internet connection exists, seems it's looking for something, maybe updates... no clue,

Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet connection

2016-12-20 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote: Maybe it's a stupid, well known thing, but if I'm using a newer version of mc (e.g. 4.8.13) and I'm not root, I have no subshell, C-o works, but immediately vanishes if I press a key. Same thing with mc -U. If I'm root, subshell works, setting

Re: No subshell ifnot root, delayed start with no internet connection

2016-12-20 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Joerg Thuemmler wrote: Another thing is that mc start is delayed, if no internet connection exists, seems it's looking for something, maybe updates... no clue, why and don't know since which version this is the behavior. That must be Samba, try re-compiling without it if