Re: "mc is over!?" - post by Ilia Maslakov

2015-05-31 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 15:44 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote: > > What is a surprise for me is, that this tool, which is already perfect > in most directions, needs such a maintenance effort.. Consider a 20-years old code base of ~300 000 SLoC, written in a very low-level language by modern standards (C

Re: "mc is over!?" - post by Ilia Maslakov

2015-05-31 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 09:09 -0400, Alan Corey wrote: > > Wow, I've been using mc for 20 years, I never realized there was a > risk of it going away. I've got about 6 instances open now in > different panes of my desktop. I thought it was maintained by a > committee. After the last death and re-

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2015-05-30 Thread Volodymyr Buell
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: > On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 08:23 -0400, Volodymyr Buell wrote: > > > > That's the reason to decommission existing infrastructure asap - you > > pay for the things that work against your productivity. > > I've heard this before, and you still ha

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2015-05-30 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 08:23 -0400, Volodymyr Buell wrote: > > That's the reason to decommission existing infrastructure asap - you > pay for the things that work against your productivity. I've heard this before, and you still haven't explained how it works against *my* productivity, or the prod

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2015-05-30 Thread Volodymyr Buell
Yury, That's the reason to decommission existing infrastructure asap - you pay for the things that work against your productivity. I see that you not so interested in migration as you didn't answer my question in private. So I'm asking it here: 1) What db backend do you use in trac? 2) I'm ready

Re: "mc is over!?" - post by Ilia Maslakov

2015-05-28 Thread Adam Pribyl
Well, this is second time, I do see mc to struggle with maintenance. There were even years, it was moving from one site to another, gnome triing to consume it etc. This really is weird as it is one of most valuable tools for admins, even thou it is not installed by default on most systems nowa

Re: "mc is over!?" - post by Ilia Maslakov

2015-05-28 Thread Alan Corey
Wow, I've been using mc for 20 years, I never realized there was a risk of it going away. I've got about 6 instances open now in different panes of my desktop. I thought it was maintained by a committee. I'm retired and mostly write C but I've never really looked at the code. I run it mostly un

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2015-05-28 Thread Luca Lazzarini
Wow... I am happy to read so many answers, as first. I have offered myself as volunteer, happy to help, but I thought I was going to part of a group of developers. I don't think I am so into mc to make it myself without a guide that knows what the project needs and where it is going, and for sure

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2015-05-27 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 14:35 +0200, Luca Lazzarini wrote: > > The sooner I get the access to the repository, the sooner I can start > to check the code. Hi Luca, You already have (read) access to the repository: https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc The issue tracking system is (currently) a

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2015-05-27 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 12:30 -0400, Volodymyr Buell wrote: > Just give people a chance and github would bursting with mc > extensions... Let me give you an example: One contributor came up with an idea to fix a bug & add a new feature; the patch was applied without much ado. A severe regression

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2015-05-27 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 18:42 +0300, Mooffie wrote: > Second, Andrew Borodin has been doing a tremendous (and fantastic) > work of cleaning up the code. People perhaps aren't aware of this. It > won't be right to say that MC stagnates. Andrew was one of the best maintainers that I have seen so far,

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2015-05-27 Thread Luca Lazzarini
Hi Slava, thanks for the answer. The sooner I get the access to the repository, the sooner I can start to check the code. I don't have time to work on it but I wouldn't be able to stop the curiosity to dig into it and see how to compile, as first. So, let me know your thought. Luca 2015-05-27 14

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2015-05-27 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Luca, 27.05.2015 14:43, Luca Lazzarini wrote: > Hi all! I am Luca, it is the first time that I write here. > > Honestly I cannot let mc die, so I would be happy to offer myself > as volunteer to help the development. > > I am a web developer, for

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2015-05-27 Thread Luca Lazzarini
Hi all! I am Luca, it is the first time that I write here. Honestly I cannot let mc die, so I would be happy to offer myself as volunteer to help the development. I am a web developer, for the most frontend but my background is C (from the university, I was pretty good, lets say almost medium wei

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2015-05-27 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 27.05.2015 13:37, Paul Sokolovsky пишет: Hi all, > The current maintainers, namely Andrew Borodin, Slava Zanko, Ilia > Maslakov, Sergei Trofimovich - please provide full disclosure of > what happens within your team. Whatever it is, please show good