http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/products/compo/XM-PX50.html For a change, these two supports MDLP. :) Quick facts: XM-PX50 blue, orange, white; 29000 yen, to be launched Nov 21. - recharging stand features an indicator that lights up when charging; - polycarbonate body (same material as most CD portables) - 21/23/26 hour play in SP/LP2/LP4 modes; doesn't support external batteries. - 76 x 17.4 x 81 mm, 74g without batteries. XM-PX70 blue, pink, white; 35000 yen, to be launched Dec 11. - monocoque construction. Lightest player at 57g (without batt.; until the Panasonic MJ88 comes along) - ATRAC DSP, digital bass boost, anti-shock combined on one LSI. Featured on both units - digital bass boost (Active Clear Bass) - 7-step bass/treble control - alarm - train mode - auto power-off and beep can be disabled - repeat, random play (no program) - in SP/LP2/LP4, 25/31/36 hour play on rech. batteries, 70/86/100 maximum. - 71 x 14.6 x 78 mm The XM-PX50 replaces the PX33 (the "casual" side of the range, according to JVC), targeted at teenagers. The PX70 replaces the PX55 (the "high-spec" model), and has slightly older target groups. Seems that history is repeating itself: last year JVC announced the PX5, which was the lightest, and then came the even lighter Panasonic. These Matsushita companies probably timed the news releases between them, and made a point to target different groups. Leon ----------------------------------------------------------------- To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]