if you click on the price then it is $249 (via outpost.com) i didn't go any further to see where the discount kicks in.... i got two (for friends, i have the import which i paid almost $300) for $190 each through a corporate account and i scored 40 memorex color for $55....... these units DO NOT come with MICROPHONES!! mine did, and it writes katanka(sp) as well (used it 2x) happy holidays patrick ----------------------------------------------------------------- To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]