Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-22 Thread Alexis Moinet
On 22/05/13 04:34, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: It looks as if you're using negative absolute positionning (e.g. left: -38px;) on the menu ... Yes, namely -38px. How do you count these pixels? using Firebug extension of Firefox I change it to -28px; now, looking with Safari, I see few

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-22 Thread Dmitrii Kouznetsov
On Wed, 22 May 2013, Alexis Moinet wrote: On 22/05/13 04:34, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: It looks as if you're using negative absolute positionning (e.g. left: -38px;) on the menu ... Yes, namely -38px. How do you count these pixels? using Firebug extension of Firefox I change it to -28px;

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-21 Thread Yury Katkov
: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:13 PM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki Hello, Jason. Your skin may be good for promotion, but it is not good for presentation of information: the service menu offupy the most of screen, while

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Mon, 20 May 2013 08:56:00 -0700, Jason Lewis jason.lewis1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Let me start off by introducing myself. My name is Jason Lewis and I'm a developer and (some kind of) designer from Australia. I play a role in the community side of things for a PHP framework called

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Friesen
That namespace is really exclusively for new skins (well and built-in skins) that follow the skins/skinname/skinname.php, etc... pattern outlined in the tutorial. Not skins still using hacks like modifying core files and placing php files directly into skins/ ((Btw, I have a separate

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-21 Thread Jason Lewis
Directly using the internal classes rather than template keys is a hack from the skinning perspective. So I didn't include any documentation on doing stuff like that. Though maybe we should. You do not want to use $wgUser to get the user. That should actually be $this-getSkin()-getUser()

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-21 Thread Yury Katkov
Hi Daniel! As far as I can see Skin category+namespace+template is the only good way to describe and promote the skins. I agree however that we should distinguish between clean-written skins and hacking skins. I can create special WARNING template about that but I think that we should describe as

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Tue, 21 May 2013 04:36:52 -0700, Jason Lewis jason.lewis1...@gmail.com wrote: * The url in $wgExtensionCredits should really just be a url. It's not a link, it's used as a url when turning the 'name' of the extension/skin into a link on Special:Version. So your Special:Version looks a

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-21 Thread Alexis Moinet
On 21/05/13 03:12, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: Hello, Jason. Your skin may be good for promotion, but it is not good for presentation of information: the service menu offupy the most of screen, while only small part of the brouser frame is used for the main text. I am not so skillful in

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-21 Thread Stephan Gambke
Ok, it's probably a bit premature, but I thought while we were all happily bashing each others skins I might as well contribute a bit. As Jason, I do (well, did) not have too much experience regarding skinning, always gave it a wide berth. But since my skin of choice is not very well maintained

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-21 Thread Dmitrii Kouznetsov
Hello, Alexis. Thank you for your feedback. On Tue, 21 May 2013, Alexis Moinet wrote: I am not so skillful in writing scripts; yet I could not make the ShortURL work, nor even make a workable copy of existing skin Vector. So, I modify Vector; you may look at the result at

[MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-20 Thread Jason Lewis
Hello, Let me start off by introducing myself. My name is Jason Lewis and I'm a developer and (some kind of) designer from Australia. I play a role in the community side of things for a PHP framework called Laravel. Over the last few days I've developed a skin for the Laravel community wiki that

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-20 Thread Kaseluris-Nikos-1959
At the end of 2011 I have created the synagonism-mw skin [1] with similar FUNCTIONALITY (no coding) but got NO attention of the community. [1] http://synagonism-mw.sourceforge.net/ On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Jason Lewis jason.lewis1...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, Let me start off by

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-20 Thread Jason Lewis
I'm not exactly after attention I'm more just documenting my experience in hope that others can benefit from it in some way. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Kaseluris-Nikos-1959 kaseluris.ni...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of 2011 I have created the synagonism-mw skin [1] with similar

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-20 Thread Jan Steinman
From: Jason Lewis jason.lewis1...@gmail.com I'm not exactly after attention I'm more just documenting my experience in hope that others can benefit from it in some way. Thanks! I had a miserable time skinning a much earlier version of MW, and my client wants me to work on it some more, so

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-20 Thread Yury Katkov
Hi Kaseluris Nikos! Since 2011 we decided to document skin and pay more attention to them. I'm pretty sure that beautiful skins will boost mediawiki popularity. Can you finalize the description of your skin here? I've created the initial version but I don't know some fields, like example of usage,

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-20 Thread Yury Katkov
Jason, thanks for this experience! We follow similar scheme when making our scheme: we even outsourced the design (Photoshop images) and html design (psd to html) steps. 1) Can you integrate it into Skinning tutorial? This way more people will read it. 2) can you create a page for your skin in

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-20 Thread Dmitrii Kouznetsov
Hello, Jason. Your skin may be good for promotion, but it is not good for presentation of information: the service menu offupy the most of screen, while only small part of the brouser frame is used for the main text. I am not so skillful in writing scripts; yet I could not make the ShortURL

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki

2013-05-20 Thread David Van Winkle
...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Dmitrii Kouznetsov Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:13 PM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Case Study: Skinning Media Wiki Hello, Jason. Your skin may be good for promotion