suffered from was a lack of clarity on
team responsibilities. Address that, the Governance and the direction,
and we should be able to make something attractive to vendors (and
contributors).
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an Android, or Windows - both of which also target "HTML5"
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'd imagine that any _invalid_ group would be ignored by
both the Apps' client and prevented by the promotion interface (as on
maemo.org/packages). However, a verification that it's a *sensible*
group also makes sense.
Do you want to add it to the wiki?
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ed by contributors (I'm
not aware of a contributor agreement)?
Is this something the Project needs to be more widely concerned about
& address? Or, are there processes which might be adaptable to
COBS/apps.meego.com?
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> I've added Ferenc and Andrew as a maintainer for the impuzzle package.
> This would mean that you two should not be able to vote for your app.
Agreed. This is good, as it'll allow teams of people to manage the
promotion/demotion of their
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 21:24, Ferenc Szekely wrote:
> On 06/22/2011 09:21 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>> We have shared-signon throughout meego.com. A package will have come
>> from :home:(:.+)?. If == logged_in_user, no vote.
>>
> This is not the same criteria what yo
will have come
from :home:(:.+)?. If == logged_in_user, no vote.
Is it that simple?
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On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 15:54, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
>
> On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 14:12, Reggie Suplido wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. Note that the forum email integration is NOT a bridge to the list.
>>> It is an ent
from Reggie, the CO & the IT team as to the next
steps? I know myself and many others would be aware of forum.meego.com
content a lot more if it was being pushed at us in our email clients
:-)
Thanks in advance,
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for MeeGo's RPM (and
possibly Harmattan). Similarly, "icon"; where does the
pre-installation icon come from?
However, I would say that any such descriptions should be shorter than:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_checklist
http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing#Qualit
discussion.
Present: Henri Bergius (bergie)
Niels Breet (X-Fade)
Ferenc Szekely (feri)
Andrew Flegg (Jaffa)
Ed Page (epage)
Randall Arnold (Texrat)
Dawn Foster (geekygirldawn)
+ others?
Suggestion:
http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Apps
es, and obviously the rates are an important part of
whether or not people are going to stay at the Hyatt for another night
or two.
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x27;t spending the same nights in the
hotel, the nights on your own will be twice as expensive. Something to bear in
mind whilst finding a roommate.
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>> 15.*
>
> As some people who propose talks are waiting to hear back about that before
> registering (i know i'm not alone in this), what would you suggest we do?
I'd say "register now". Things can be cancelled.
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he ExoPC[1] and the Lenovo IdeaPad S3-10t
might be suitable? Probably teaching you to suck eggs, but still...
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it is), or is it thought that large corporate sponsors to MeeGo will
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:45, Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>
>> But one glaring thing which struck me about the iPad's UI is that the
>> graphic effect showing the unleafed pages doesn't change between page
>>
between page
1 & page 100; which is pretty basic UI feedback.
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work. In future, it will be easier for old habits (such as
conversations in the corridor) to decide the future of the project.
Sucks to be Intel, but there's not a whole lot to like about this
situation :-(
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and reports) or what the tech media is
reporting it as.
Anyway, this bit seems to be generating more comment than my "ecosystem in a
box" vision, I assume because it's self-evident and everyone agrees with it? ;-)
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wrote:
> On Monday, February 14, 2011 07:22:05 am Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> [1] Unfortunately, the "big reveal" mentality is still at
>> play here, with Intel's unveiling of "their" "MeeGo"
>
g reveal" mentality is still at play here, with
Intel's unveiling of "their" "MeeGo" Tablet UX. How can it be called
"the MeeGo Tablet UX" when it has been developed internally, with no
discussion on meego-architecture, -pm or -dev; not brought u
duced capacity.
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ndation efforts such as LiMo? :-/
Cheers,
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PS. If MeeGo is to survive as an open project, I'd hope to see the project's
leadership discussing this with the project community in an open way - at
least *before* decisions are taken. If the Community Office can facilitate
ds sensible. Drawing an imagination blank at the moment, though!
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Happy to add it after some further discussion here; but I don't think
wiki's Talk pages make good non-realtime discussion channels.
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ompliance criteria (in the same
way the Handset folk do the Handset Profile etc.). This would
require extensive collaboration, of course - and is one of
the reasons a formal working group is required.
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lunteers?
o Go forth and tap people up?
o Who is involved in the decision?
o How does the institutional memory work if someone turns out to
be all talk?
If we can answer those, we should have an initial sketch of a device
programme :-)
Cheers,
hout buy-in from the people who'd need to
provide the hardware could be an exercise in brainstorming without
many results (not directed at anybody in particular, just trying to
move the thread forward :-))
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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:33, Henri Bergius wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>> MWKN's issues.rss is already syndicated to the Blogs aggregator, but
>> happy to do something different, including a feed of each individual
>> story,
, as the MWKN contributors trawl the relevant planets.
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om one of MeeGo's primary
sponsors.
That message, and others from October, are still available on the
various other mirrors of the mailing list; such as gmane etc.
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The only extra admin is then:
* To set up the lists; garage's mailman would do
* To advertise the new lists and to encourage people
to subscribe to the ones they want. Wiki page + links
to it advertised everywhere the bugjar currently is.
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On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 20:41, Dave Neary wrote:
>
> Count-down
+1 for "Countdown".
> I have a few other ideas for warm-up or preparation type metaphors, but I
> don't know how appropriate they are.
-1 for "Foreplay" ;-)
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> sessions and avoiding missing them.
There's one for everything:
http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2010-November/002473.html
Then you could delete stuff, or add an alarm to the ones you wanted for example.
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along and help edit the issue; give us moral support or just get a
flavour of what it is we do.
Thanks in advance,
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[2] http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Weekly_News#Implementation
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contactable via SMS and voice as normal and don't have any service
like Google Voice to help us out - unless it's put in a MiFi (or
similar). I just wish Vodafone (and these other pan-European networks)
didn't gouge prices quite so much :-(
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ion.org). She'll be able to help.
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On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 17:06, Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> [...] "MeeGo 1.0 N"[4], aka Harmattan, or MeeGo 1.2 (in April) being more
>> relevant to many more
>> people.
>
> Andrew, did you intentionall
people.
Cheers,
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[1] http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6020#c9
[2] http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2953#c16
[3] http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3551#c18
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> make a substantial difference in pricing.
The first round of approvals have been made, and emails about "what
you now need to do" are being finalised.
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found here:
> http://wiki.meego.com/Community_communication
>
> And anyone can always subscribe to any of our lists from here:
> http://lists.meego.com/mailman/listinfo
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> Dawn
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effectively the
community self-selecting devices for itself.
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On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 17:59, Quim Gil wrote:
> On 09/09/2010 09:32 AM, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>
>> The only problem is it puts an extra administrative burden on us/the
>> CO to provide a mechanism for sponsored participants to match
>> themselves up. There'll t
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 17:12, Quim Gil wrote:
> On 09/09/2010 01:40 AM, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 23:27, Quim Gil wrote:
>>
>>> TO BE CONFIRMED: The hotel reservation of sponsored participants will be
>>> booked by the Linux Foundation
r participants are expected to pay for the Saturday night
themselves.
This may appear unfair, but arriving in any useful state after a 10
hour flight often requires a bit more time to acclimatise.
Thoughts?
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Quim wrote:
> On 09/08/2010 08:53 AM, ext Stephen Gadsby wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
> > > Possibly with a vote to pick the preferred 3 or 4? Still want *some*
> > > form of continuity if presenters want that. Maybe even some kind of
ed
> list in the wiki.
Possibly with a vote to pick the preferred 3 or 4? Still want *some* form of
continuity if presenters want that. Maybe even some kind of theme based on
tracks?
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onsidered for sponsorship.
Apologies again if my wording implied a personal attack. That was npot
my intention.
Regards,
Andrew
On 08/09/2010, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
>
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:54 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>
>>>>> 3) Active legacy community members:
ely. The bio is a starting point and a prod to the committee on
where to focus their Googling. It's a big job when you haven't got an
overall summary of people's contributions through a consolidated
interface :-(
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On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:21, Quim Gil wrote:
> On 09/07/2010 07:19 AM, ext Foster, Dawn M wrote:
>> On Sep 4, 2010, at 12:59 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>>> 2) Active MeeGo community members:
>>> a. Committers
>>> b. Bug reporters
&g
detection:
if you move even a tiny amount, it'll attempt to start
scrolling. Even in an "OK" dialogue box in the
middle of the screen. One of the few bugs I've got to
raise next week.
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> On 4 September 2010 09:59, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
> > 2) Active MeeGo community members:
> > 3) Active legacy community members:
> > * Maemo community members (karma _helps_ here, but isn't
> > a be-all and end-all)
&
a be-all and end-all)
* Moblin community members
4) Members of core upstream projects
Each request should be made on a case-by-case basis of course.
Cheers,
Andrew
[1] http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010#Sponsoring_Committee
[2]
http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meet
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 00:31, Quim Gil wrote:
> On 08/30/2010 01:42 PM, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 20:46, Quim Gil wrote:
>>>
>> [snip]
>>>
>>> - The MeeGo Extras repositories will host only MeeGo compliant software.
>
tila's made before: "MeeGo is the
evolution of Moblin and Maemo" is an easy message, but the story seems
a lot less clear when looking at the actual complexities around a
(hopefully soon-to-be) shipping, commercially viable device,
especially when that device is from one of MeeGo&#x
MeeGo
community, as well as the Maemo development community.
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once the above policy is changed, and we
> will make our decision on how ppl who are requesting assistance
> should move forward.
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On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 01:07, Leeland, Amy L wrote:
> They are fixing this right away, I will contact anyone who has booked so far
Excellent, thanks Amy.
A few further questions which are outstanding definitive answers:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 19:10, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
> Ah, in
people who've
booked so far to clear up what they actually wanted?
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eeGo (* UX). What practical difficulties do you foresee, and
are they on the roadmap to be fixed (i.e. already exist in Bugzilla)?
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VER, I agree that things at the Conference may be an *awful* lot
clearer: by then, if it's not launched, hopefully we'll have seen more
details about Harmattan and the Harmattan device and have an idea of
how the Netbook UX is working from a community PoV.
A BoF at the Conference on community g
eadsheet which allows each member of the
committee (last year, that was the council) to cast a vote on each
person making the request. It worked well, albeit needed a bit of
poking occasionally.
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ything non-refundable until they
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On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:10, Graham Cobb wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 August 2010 09:31:09 Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> When you say "not book any travel", does that also include "not book
>> any accomodation"?
>
> I don't know what Dawn's answer
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 21:30, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>> Ah, interesting. How will that work then: book the hotel and get the
>> deposit reimbursed?
>
> People who are requesting travel & accommodation sponsorshi
l costs paid for. How would you suggest they play this?
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ask if there's still
a point.
[2] Perhaps one of the reasons I volunteered for this, to get more
involved (rather than porting Hermes to Qt Mobility: the version
I've got works on the device I've got now)
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>> community guys volunteering their time.
>>
>> --
>
> Well, I'm a Maemo council guy with Nokia handset experience, so I'll
> volunteer if that's okay.
>
> Randy
>
> -
the Maemo Summit: the Community
Council (5 elected volunteers) were put in charge of deciding who got
sponsorship out of those who applied. We approved ourselves, but I
don't think any charge of bias or unfairness would stick.
Oh, and - as promised: out of a conference size of 300-400, 85-
itial Hildon port, the answer is
"move to Qt" - which is actually further away than was suggested by
Nokia at the Maemo Summit 2009; and a non-trivial job for most
applications.
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On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 14:53, Henri Bergius wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> * IMHO, it's technically sub-optimal (since we can't do decaying
>> karma - which wasn't an original requirement but might've
>> solved some
ive enough that they bridge the different media and make sure
everyone knows what's going on.
However, it does allow you to change the metrics each time (although
I'm not too sure why that is a valuable use-case). And you could hope
that the "illuminati" in the community are a b
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:41, Henri Bergius wrote:
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> However, you're right about the cost aspect: a lot of investment has
>> produced a (IMHO, technically sub-optimal) implementation for
>> maemo.org. The hours bil
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 17:46, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
> However, you're right about the cost aspect: a lot of investment has
> produced a (IMHO, technically sub-optimal) implementation for
> maemo.org. The hours billed to that from Nemein et al could've paid
> for a few
n making processes around sponsorship and device programmes.
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evelop it themselves.
And that's useful? ;-) Perhaps, if it's more than the amount Nokia &
Intel (and other commercial contributors) spend, it's a good
justification for the ROI of being open source.
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maemo.org. The hours billed to that from Nemein et al could've paid
for a few more sponsorship slots, I guess.
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pany like Nokia to change overnight."
However, I *do* expect Nokia and Intel to change overnight when they
announce a big, public and open project like MeeGo. Especially since
both members of the TSG have been leading large open projects
internally for years. I certainly hope your proposal helps
r MeeGo as well, if we want to use that:
>
> http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/MeeGork/
TBH, the workstream may have worked well internally, but it's
absolutely atrocious for seeing overall progress. There's room - and
need - for both.
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ed up with it.
The CWG, the TSG and the (possible) council are the customers of any
paid staff. Not their employers. And so accountability should go in
that direction.
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nce to users
of both media?
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uot;; although
there's obviously an overlap.
However, perhaps this strengthens the case for another body, apart from the
benevolent dictators, sitting across all the working groups. Or, alternatively,
ensuring that a member of the CWG sits in the
nship of the CWG & the Council in this model? Siblings
under the TSG or CWG being a supplier to the Council & TSG, in the same way
that I want to see the maemo.org paid contributors being "suppliers" to Nokia
and the Maemo Community Council?
Cheers,
Andrew
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Let me know ASAP if you're interested and with any ideas you've got.
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
[1] http://hermes.garage.maemo.org/
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de of this is there's no "killfile" feature: if I look
at a thread once and decide I'm not interested, it will still show up
in the "updated posts" view; making it slightly less efficient to
catch-up.
Cheers,
Andrew
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king into account that it already has a sub-forum at
talk.maemo.org).
http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2010-March/000382.html
Either absolute seems to be a recipe for confusion (although one
choice may have lower confusion levels than the other).
Cheers,
Andrew
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ce there to support it.
But that doesn't give a really clear separation for users.
What'd be *really* interesting is whether the "Harmattan/MeeGo" forum
on talk.maemo.org could be federated to a "Harmattan" forum on
forum.meego.com, but without sharing, or importin
hatever is preferred by the community."
Which community is this, the Maemo or MeeGo one? There are still lots
of tasks on maemo.org, but I'd want Niels' expertise brought to
meego.com as well; and there are probably lots of question
the community; or one large third-party site
which large numbers of people keep up with to bridge the segmentation; or
(worst of all) a series of small, fragmented fora which prevent a cohesive
MeeGo community reaching critical mass.
Cheers,
Andrew
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