Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-12-17 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Yu Kuifei wrote: > This is an interesting topic and the Beijing MeeGo Community shows > interests to translate it into Chinese. Any good place (or url) to host > a Chinese version on the wiki? Thanks! Just add / to the page you want to translate - http://wiki.meego.com/Marketing/MeeGo_vs_Andr

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-12-17 Thread Yu Kuifei
This is an interesting topic and the Beijing MeeGo Community shows interests to translate it into Chinese. Any good place (or url) to host a Chinese version on the wiki? Thanks! Br., Yu Kuifei - Original message - > Hello, > > I have updated the chapter about OBS in the MeeGo vs Andro

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-12-16 Thread Dominig ar Foll
Hello, I have updated the chapter about OBS in the MeeGo vs Android Wiki page. Let me know if you want a bit more or less or change things. I obviously have express my idea based on my experience of Implementing MeeGo for an STB which is under deployment at Telecom Italia http://www.youtube.com/w

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-25 Thread quim.gil
> > Anyway, organize your work as you wish. Just think how would you > > leapfrog Android in the current situation. > > I thought I was doing a comparison :) It's up to you & other people to > figure out how to make things look better once it's done. Fair enough. :) > > That is a nice tale but I

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-25 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quim Gil wrote: > Of course that is an important factor, but how can you drive market and > 3rd party developer demand without convincing ODMs and operators? Note > though that by applying that rule Android would have never got in the > place it is, without convincing some operators and some O

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-25 Thread Jed Cousin
The UK newspaper The Economist printed the article at the following URL on the 21st. The accompanying chart simplifies the subject matter, but it's easy on the eyes. "Smart-phone lawsuits: The great patent battle: Nasty legal spats between tech giants may be here to stay." Oct 21st 2010 : http://w

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-25 Thread Quim Gil
On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 12:32 +0200, ext Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Quim Gil wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 11:38 +0200, ext Dave Neary wrote: > >> * User experience > >> * Application developer experience > >> * ODM/operator experience > >> * Core developer experience > > > > This list looks ri

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-25 Thread Bogdan Cristea
.com > [mailto:meego-community-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of Niels Mayer > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:42 PM > To: meego-community@meego.com > Subject: Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > > Besides, i

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-25 Thread George Ingram
-community@meego.com Subject: Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > Besides, in this field MeeGo and Android have probably more reasons to > collaborate than to fight. You mention the claims of Oracle but you > should not forget t

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-25 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quim Gil wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 11:38 +0200, ext Dave Neary wrote: >> * User experience >> * Application developer experience >> * ODM/operator experience >> * Core developer experience > > This list looks right when sorted in the opposite order. > At this point > of time the comparis

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-22 Thread Niels Mayer
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > Besides, in this field MeeGo and Android have probably more reasons to > collaborate than to fight. You mention the claims of Oracle but you > should not forget that Apple has filed lawsuits too, targeting Linux and > open source components. htt

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-22 Thread Quim Gil
On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 11:38 +0200, ext Dave Neary wrote: > The second is to do a straightforward comparative analysis of MeeGo & > Android. This is what I would prefer for the moment. We could then do > further comparisons with the other platforms if we felt it could be useful. > > Within this com

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-22 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quim Gil wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 14:02 +0200, ext Dave Neary wrote: >> In fact, I would use this as an opportunity to do a real competitive >> analysis, and not specifically look for advantages MeeGo has over >> Android. After all, Android has more market share, more handsets, more >> a

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-22 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quim Gil wrote: >> In fact, I would use this as an opportunity to do a real competitive >> analysis, and not specifically look for advantages MeeGo has over >> Android. After all, Android has more market share, more handsets, more >> apps, a very coherent developer story, great developer tools

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-21 Thread Quim Gil
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 14:02 +0200, ext Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Jonay Santana wrote: > > Maybe Nokia and Intel should underscore the fact that MeeGo doesn't > > depend on third-party patented software. > > I would concentrate on things that developers care about - talking about > patents is

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-21 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Jonay Santana wrote: > Maybe Nokia and Intel should underscore the fact that MeeGo doesn't > depend on third-party patented software. I would concentrate on things that developers care about - talking about patents is only spreading FUD yourself - particularly since there are still people w

Re: [MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-21 Thread Jonay Santana
Maybe Nokia and Intel should underscore the fact that MeeGo doesn't depend on third-party patented software. Android's future is right now uncertain, thanks to Oracle sueing Google over Java, Dalvik, and who knows what more. Meego, beign a real linux distro, should be "sue-proof", so there won't

[MeeGo-community] Task: MeeGo vs Android

2010-10-20 Thread Quim Gil
http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Marketing/MeeGo_vs_Android This is currently the task #5 in the Marketing backlog. It is actually a very critical one: MeeGo is now part of the options many ODMs are considering as we speak. Even when the technical managers see the point and beauty of MeeGo t