Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-02 Thread William ML Leslie
On 3 August 2017 at 10:16, William ML Leslie wrote: > On 2 August 2017 at 17:09, Ben Finney wrote: >> I think it is alarmingly bad advice to say “prepare for this tutorial by >> downloading this third-party shell script and running it on your >> computer”. So I've been trying to find a way that i

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-02 Thread William ML Leslie
On 2 August 2017 at 17:09, Ben Finney wrote: > I think it is alarmingly bad advice to say “prepare for this tutorial by > downloading this third-party shell script and running it on your > computer”. So I've been trying to find a way that is more secure than > that. > That's before you even get t

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-02 Thread Ben Finney
Scott Wales writes: > The packages in your yaml file are most likely available on PyPI, > although please do be mindful that the instructors will most likely be > unable to spend time helping you with installation issues during the > tutorial itself. Yes, I'm well aware of that, which is why I'm

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Tennessee Leeuwenburg
Anaconda's default install is non-root. It's an entirely userspace thing by design. On 2 August 2017 at 16:14, Brian May wrote: > On 2017-08-02 15:27, Scott Wales wrote: > > > As a side note I don't believe that PyPI does any vetting of what gets > uploaded, I'm not sure there's any real differe

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Tim Richardson
g and > running a shell script. > > Cheers, Scott > > -- > *From:* melbourne-pug unimelb.edu...@python.org> on behalf of Ben Finney < > ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 August 2017 2:55 PM > *To:* melbourne-pug@pyth

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Scott Wales
and running a python script with pip and downloading and running a shell script. Cheers, Scott From: melbourne-pug on behalf of Ben Finney Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2017 2:55 PM To: melbourne-pug@python.org Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using De

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Ben Finney
Sergio Valqui writes: > Anaconda does the version control for all those packages, for a given > version of Anaconda there is a given version of the packages Most Python packages do this by declaring the packages (and versions) they depend on, in the Distutils metadata. Why doesn't Anaconda decl

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Sergio Valqui
> So if I install those packages using ‘python3 -m pip install’, I have an > equivalent environment that can behave correctly in a tutorial that assumes > Anaconda? > > > That confuses me. Is that a list of the packages to install in order to have > an > Anaconda environment? > Anaconda does t

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Ronny Haryanto
If running docker images is an option, these may be worth a look. Python 3 https://hub.docker.com/r/continuumio/anaconda3/ Python 2 https://hub.docker.com/r/continuumio/anaconda/ Ronny On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Howdy all, > > I will be attending a tutorial at this w

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Ben Finney
Sergio Valqui writes: > There is no such an installer for Anaconda , as is rather a collection > of packages that are installed hence the shell So if I install those packages using ‘python3 -m pip install’, I have an equivalent environment that can behave correctly in a tutorial that assumes Ana

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Sergio Valqui
...@python.org] On Behalf Of Ben Finney Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 12:01 To: melbourne-pug@python.org Subject: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager Howdy all, I will be attending a tutorial at this week's PyCon AU (hooray!), which requires me to install Anaconda.

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney writes: > Instead, how can I use the operating-system package manager [to > install] the necessary tools? I don't see an Anaconda package in > Debian, and there is no discussion I can find on how to do this. I see that Debian Stretch (the latest stable release) has packages for all of

Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney writes: > Instead, how can I use the operating-system package manager [to > install] the necessary tools? I don't see an Anaconda package in > Debian, and there is no discussion I can find on how to do this. There is a ‘conda’ package on PyPI. That doesn't do what I need; the ‘conda’

[melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

2017-08-01 Thread Ben Finney
Howdy all, I will be attending a tutorial at this week's PyCon AU (hooray!), which requires me to install Anaconda. The instructions for Anaconda give the very insecure advice to download an arbitrary shell script and run it. I certainly don't want to do that on my computer :-) Instead, how can