Hi, Tennesee,
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll put the rule-of-thumb rules in the
wiki today after COB.
Also, no criticism on your passing the emails, despite the
disagreement. We never thank you for minding the mailing list, so
thank you!
Regards,
Javier
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Tenne
To be fair, I think the last two recruiter emails we've had are
actually related to real companies with real jobs, and they are
recruiting to fill these positions now. I still think they aren't the
kind of approach you expect in a community mailing list.
As I told both of the recruiters: if I went
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Javier Candeira
wrote:
> I think there is a difference between a job offer on a community list and
> a recruiter non-offer.
>
I may be going off-topic here (feel free to reply privately if you need)..
but what's the deal with recruiter non-offer? You mean they a
These guidelines from the RORO list might be of use:
In order to keep the RORO group running smoothly, please follow these
> guidelines when posting and responding to jobs.
>
> To Would-be Job Posters:
>
> RORO members would appreciate you including the following:
>
> * The label "[JOB]" in the su
Would it be an option to have two mailing lists? The "classic" one where ads
are strictly off limits, and another one purely for job ads?
We can then all decide for ourselves if we are interested in job
ads and no one needs to decide what is (or is not) an acceptable ad for the
list.
Best,
O
rs of community for reasons of genuine personal interest.
-Lee Beer
From: Javier Candeira [mailto:jav...@candeira.com]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2015 11:59 AM
To: Melbourne Python Users Group
Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] Job Opportunity - Software Engineer/Developer
(Python)
I think there
I think the people who need looking after here are those who need or want
jobs. If we can figure out what's best for them, I think the rest is easy.
The thing about all communities is that there will be a diversity of
opinions. Let's just settle on a policy and then minimise the meta
thereafter.
Okay, here's my proposal.
Let's put together either
(a) A word document
(b) A web page that's hosted somewhere (this is probably the best option)
This should state our expectations for recruiters. About 80% of these email
come from non-subscribers. I will reject all these emails and send them t
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> You're welcome to do so, and I am not arguing against recruiters. But
> this is not a forum for them to sell their wares.
I disagree at this point. If someone came in and said: "I'm recruiting
for Jane Street, for their new operation here in M
On 26/02 11:19:52, Rory Hart wrote:
> Personally I have gotten two jobs off this list, I'd probably not be
> working with Python day to day if it wasn't for job postings here.
I've also got a couple of jobs off this list (and had another one slip
through my fingers :)), but in each case it was a d
Alec Clews writes:
> Actually that is a little unfair on many employers.
I don't think so. This forum is for the benefit primarily of the Python
programming community.
Prospective employers are welcome to participate in this community as
equals. If some choose not to do so – for whatever reason
ation, dissemination, action taken in reliance upon, or other use of
> this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient
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> received in error, please notify the sender and delete the information from
> y
I think there is a difference between a job offer on a community list and a
recruiter non-offer.
Job offers that I can remember came from the BOM, Medibank, Biarri, Graeme
Gumnow. They spoke of the stack being used, the kind of job, and often a
clear salary expectation. They were also by someone w
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> *From:* William ML Leslie
..@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2015 10:48 AM
To: Melbourne Python Users Group; Liam Kelly
Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] Job Opportunity - Software Engineer/Developer
(Python)
On 26 February 2015 at 09:32, Liam Kelly
mailto:li...@halcyonknights.com.au>> wrote:
My client
blah blah bla
So far I've been letting a lot of these through manually, because
recruiters tend not to take the time to subscribe themselves to the list,
just post to it. Which is irritating.
On the other hand, jobs are really important, for both employer and
employee. People might really benefit from this info
I think William's point is spot-on.
Moreover, I don't think anyone should be banned simply for posting an ad
here. Continuing to post (or argue about being able to post) after being
warned not to, however, should definitely be cause for banning.
(It would also put them squarely in the "bottom-fee
And maybe who to ban from posting?
J
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:48 AM, William ML Leslie
wrote:
> On 26 February 2015 at 09:32, Liam Kelly
> wrote:
>>
>> My client
>> blah blah blah
>
>
> A nice side-effect of all this recruiter spam is that we're getting an
> education on who to avoid.
>
> --
On 26 February 2015 at 10:53, Rory Hart wrote:
> Meets my criteria for appropriate for this list.
>
> Python: check
> Melbourne: check
>
I thought Javier's criteria made sense:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/melbourne-pug/2015-February/002211.html
--
William Leslie
Notice:
Likely much o
Meets my criteria for appropriate for this list.
Python: check
Melbourne: check
> On 26 Feb 2015, at 10:48 am, William ML Leslie
> wrote:
>
>> On 26 February 2015 at 09:32, Liam Kelly wrote:
>> My client blah blah blah
>
> A nice side-effect of all this recruiter spam is that we're getting
On 26 February 2015 at 09:32, Liam Kelly
wrote:
> My client
> blah blah blah
>
A nice side-effect of all this recruiter spam is that we're getting an
education on who to avoid.
--
William Leslie
Notice:
Likely much of this email is, by the nature of copyright, covered under
copyright law.
Hi,
I wanted to reach out to you to make you aware of an exciting opportunity that
I am currently recruiting for.
My client is an exciting and innovative algorithm-based software house. They
have fantastic clients, including Google, and they are ramping up massively due
to significant growth a
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