Re: [MBZ] Unwired Tools W116 ACC fix (was: droolworthy 6.9)

2010-11-19 Thread Rusty Cullens
From a parts guy stand point the Unwired Tools version is the ONLY way to go. The original Mercedes units sell for $1620.00 versus $795.00 for Unwired Tools. The rebuilt aluminum housing version sold by many aftermarket suppliers also sell in the $795.00 range and have a warranty return rate of

Re: [MBZ] Ya Gotta Love It...

2010-11-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I think I woke everyone up I laughed so hard... Pure genious. Walt On Nov 19, 2010 9:16 AM, "LWB250" wrote: > Despite all the hubbub about the TSA and their intrusive security screening procedures, this is pretty funny: > > http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1470.html > > Dan > > >

[MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

2010-11-19 Thread Jerry Herrman
smog controls. And, by the way, what is the name for that flexible metal tubing that seems to be an endless spiral? JC Whitney does not have this item. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5634 (20101119) __ The message w

[MBZ] 300SDC Was: PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread Dieselhead
Sounds like a plan! On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:21 PM, wrote: I have a beautiful 1991 560SEC, black/bamboo. I am second owner. Car had all records, Mobil 1 since new. Bought it with 167000 on the clock. Now had 181000. HUGE knock from deep middle of engine. It is a bearing for sure. Already l

Re: [MBZ] Mandatory E10 (was: Fuel stabilizer)

2010-11-19 Thread OK Don
I've had no problem with E10 in the '78 450SLC, the '91 300E, or the '01 ML320. Only difference I see between E10 and E0 is mileage. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > That is odd, because I have run MB Gassers on E10 for 30+ years with nary a > hiccup. Th

Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-19 Thread OK Don
I've used the teflon tape withoput issue - just be careful that no tape is beyond the threads. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Craig wrote: > > > I've always had problems with the loosened bleeder screws leaking around > > the threads.

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread ernest breakfield
or it could be just that the radio was on while they took the pictures,..;-) cheers! e On 19/Nov/10 15:34, WILTON wrote: Or it may need a new actuator/retractor; 'could put it up and disconnected it. Wilton - Original Message - From: To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Frid

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 84 and 85 Mercedes 300TD parts-parts-parts - $700 (shapleigh)

2010-11-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
Those two parts cars look great other than they are 300D sedans. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Andrew, Ask and Ye shall receive... > > > > FWIW. >> Not mine etc. >> Fred Moir >> Lynn MA >> Diesel preferred. >> >> Original Message >>

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread WILTON
Or it may need a new actuator/retractor; 'could put it up and disconnected it. Wilton - Original Message - From: To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit? Cause he needs to buy a new mast from me?

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread E M
Bottom line, there really is no way to run either of these cars on the cheap. I think the best way to have a fighting chance, is to stay away from these cars that look like deals, and buy the very best one you can find, and pay for it. It will still cost you money to run, but nothing like trying

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Even after the allotment for parts and repairs, that's still cheaper than $18,000 for a base version 2K10 Subaru... Walt On Nov 19, 2010 6:05 PM, "Alex Chamberlain" wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, E M wrote: >> anymore than than $1000 will sort out an old Rolls. >> > > At least with a

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, E M wrote: > anymore than than $1000 will sort out an old Rolls. > At least with a Benz you have a fighting chance of doing some of the work yourself and saving a few bucks. Can an amateur even buy a shop manual for a Rolls? Are there discount aftermarket parts

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread E M
I think you have to use a sliding scale, with mileage and age. Also, if you're talking about a SEC, 25% would put that on average around $1000 bucks alloted for repairs. No way you're going to address all the things that most likely need attention on a SEC of that age and mileage, with that kind

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread E M
Sounds like nothing that $10,000 wouldn't put right. ;-) Ed 300E On 19 November 2010 17:21, wrote: > I have a beautiful 1991 560SEC, black/bamboo. I am second owner. Car had > all records, Mobil 1 since new. Bought it with 167000 on the clock. Now had > 181000. HUGE knock from deep middle of en

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread LWB250
Methinks the sound would be the giveaway. If you have a bottom end knock, trust me, you'll know it. Dan --- On Fri, 11/19/10, andrew strasfogel wrote: > From: andrew strasfogel > Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit? > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Friday, Novembe

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:21 PM, wrote: > I have a beautiful 1991 560SEC, black/bamboo. I am second owner. >Car had all records, Mobil 1 since new. Bought it with 167000 on the clock. >Now had 181000. HUGE knock from deep middle of engine. It is a bearing >for sure. Already looked at upper and lo

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
How would you diagnose something like that? On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:21 PM, wrote: > I have a beautiful 1991 560SEC, black/bamboo. I am second owner. Car had > all records, Mobil 1 since new. Bought it with 167000 on the clock. Now had > 181000. HUGE knock from deep middle of engine. It is a be

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread buymbparts
I have a beautiful 1991 560SEC, black/bamboo. I am second owner. Car had all records, Mobil 1 since new. Bought it with 167000 on the clock. Now had 181000. HUGE knock from deep middle of engine. It is a bearing for sure. Already looked at upper and lower rails. These bottom ends are bullet proo

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread Allan Streib
It all depends on who does the work, too. If a shop is involved, then parts are 2x what you can get them for from Rusty, plus labor. Allan On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:13 -0500, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: > I prefer the maxim "budget 25 percent of the *used Mercedes's > purchase price > * during th

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
I prefer the maxim "budget 25 percent of the *used Mercedes's purchase price * during the first year of ownership" to cover unanticipated and existing problems. Andrew, speaking from experience... On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:05 PM, E M wrote: > What I find to be a very good point of reference, was

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread E M
The antenna is probably the cheapest thing you'll ever have to worry about with a SEC. hee hee Ed 300E On 19 November 2010 16:42, Michael Esh wrote: > Why is the antenna in the up position in all pictures? > Mike > On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > > > http://phoenix.craigslist.

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread E M
It's often said, that 250,000 miles is nothing for these cars. But remember, EVERY component on the car has 250,000 miles. Every movies piece, every bit of rubber, every electrical connection, everything. It's like people saying, a diesel will go a millions miles. Show me one that has, that has

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread E M
What I find to be a very good point of reference, was advise what was once given to me by the mechanic who used to service my Porsche. I think it equally applies to any higher end car. He said, once a car is 10 years or so old, even if in good overall condition, allot 10-15% of the cars "original

Re: [MBZ] Mandatory E10 (was: Fuel stabilizer)

2010-11-19 Thread Dieselhead
That is odd, because I have run MB Gassers on E10 for 30+ years with nary a hiccup. That includes the E320 and 380SLx2, 300E etc. Ethanol RAISES the octane. At E10, the bump is usually 2 points, so "premium only" MBs are quite happy with 89 octane (RON+MON/2). Current flavors of gasoline are

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread buymbparts
Cause he needs to buy a new mast from me? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Michael Esh Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:42:32 To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread Michael Esh
Why is the antenna in the up position in all pictures? Mike On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ctd/2068045165.html > > probably needs to be at least $1500 cheaper, right? > > Bob R > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ctd/2068045165.html > > probably needs to be at least $1500 cheaper, right? Considering it's on a used-car lot rather than private party, there's haggling room. If you could get it for $2500, I think that'd b

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
That's not what I mean. There are a lot of little things that are important to me if they are broken or not working. I do not care for a list of what's right with a vehicle because that's always going to be skewed from the seller's viewpoint. I want to see a list of what's currently in need of r

[MBZ] Mandatory E10 (was: Fuel stabilizer)

2010-11-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Craig wrote: > On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:38:50 -0800 Alex Chamberlain > wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Allan Streib >> wrote: >> >  I don't buy ethanol-cut gasoline which may have something to do with >> > it. >> Some of us don't have that choice, unl

Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Craig wrote: > I've always had problems with the loosened bleeder screws leaking around > the threads. > Me too. (Not just on Benzes but in general.) The best solution I've found is to make sure the threads are very clean (run a die on the bleed screw if necess

Re: [MBZ] cheap SL

2010-11-19 Thread Dieselhead
All I can tell you for sure from the pictures is that it is a 111. From the interior color, it is probably a 220Sb. If the year is right, then it is either a 220Sb or a 220SEb. My guess is that the front bumper is off because of rust. I doubt is is an SE. as those were pretty pricey. There

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread E M
Nobody makes these cars 100%, that's why it's best to try and find one that's been kept as close to new as possible, and always properly maintained and serviced. Even then, it won't be perfect, but it will be an old, pretty reliable car. To make it "100% perfect", I don't know, I'd say $40-60,000

[MBZ] cheap SL

2010-11-19 Thread Mitch Haley
I didn't know they made a four door SL in 1961. Is this a 220S, or a lesser car? http://centralmich.craigslist.org/cto/2064869878.html For $800, it might be fun to make a 250SD out of it if it's easily restorable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new a

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well it looks clean and maintained from the pics, if so it should be fine. On 11/18/2010 9:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote: For that many miles, yeah I'd think so. Unless it's been kept up, it likely will need a lot of rejuvenating. Allan On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:43 -0700, "Bob Rentfro" wrote: ht

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
On the plus side it has *ice cold air* but on the other hand the SR needs fixin'. I always like to ask this kind of seller "what would it take to make the car 100 percent perfect?" That usually generates a more candid assessment of the vehicle... On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:21 AM, E M wrote: > T

Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-19 Thread Craig
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:52:16 -0800 Jim Cathey wrote: > > If I had a pressure bleeder I'd be done by now. Wish I'd thought of > > that in advance... > > Not really. You need to pump fluid in the _bottom_ of the > clutch system. And where does the fluid come out? Into the > _bottom_ of the bra

Re: [MBZ] My! What a subject!!!

2010-11-19 Thread Craig
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:32:17 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond wrote: > Interesting no? > > I think I did it, I'm on digest and use Yahoo mail so my normal > procedure is to copy a message I want to reply to, open a new browser > tab, compose a new email, plop the copied bit into the message body, > copy

Re: [MBZ] clutch master beeding

2010-11-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Now that I think more about this: Would I hang my vessel, open the bleeder and pump the clutch or will it bleed all on its own and I just watch for bubbles in the brake res? -Curt Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:39:24 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject:

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Would this be a money pit?

2010-11-19 Thread E M
These were, and are great cars. This example looks like an effort was made to keep it looking decent, but unfortunately, with the mileage, the thing is getting a bit tired. I think the only way to buy these cars, and the cheapest, is to find the very best example you can, and pay a bit more upfro

[MBZ] Ya Gotta Love It...

2010-11-19 Thread LWB250
Despite all the hubbub about the TSA and their intrusive security screening procedures, this is pretty funny: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1470.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] My! What a subject!!!

2010-11-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Interesting no? I think I did it, I'm on digest and use Yahoo mail so my normal procedure is to copy a message I want to reply to, open a new browser tab, compose a new email, plop the copied bit into the message body, copy the subject, put in the address, add the subject (because I can just ta

Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Pretty small tubing though. I've got a supply of 1/4" but as I remember its too big... Any idea on the correct stuff? -Curt Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:52:16 -0800 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; cha

Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer

2010-11-19 Thread Curt Raymond
MA registers trailers but does not title them. NH and ME also register but I don't know about titles there. -Curt Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:17:32 -0700 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Message-ID: <20101118201732.7b38e059.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type:

Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

2010-11-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Cool, so when it warms up a bit I'll head over to the hardware store and look for appropriate bits, I'm thinking a suitable can (a metal hand oiler if I can get one) and an outlet fitting, my bicycle pump should provide sufficient pressure... -Curt Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:57:22 -0500 From: F

Re: [MBZ] clutch master beeding

2010-11-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh, even more better-er. I don't have anything in a 'Merican fuel filter but I'm sure I can rig something... -Curt Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:39:24 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] clutch master beeding Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer

2010-11-19 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey writes: > The rating plate comes into play in some jurisdictions if you > have an accident. If the prosecution can show that you violated > the 'safe weight rating' (and just what rocket scientists might > have come up with that number, anyway?) then bend over. Good idea to double-ch