Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

2014-04-01 Thread Gary Hurst
my mom's friend lives in this place where every time there is a complaint, they old person is on an ambulance to hollywood memorial hospital for a week stay on the government dime . i go visit these people and ask them why they are there. they say things like i had a little heartburn and now they

Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

2014-04-01 Thread Gary Hurst
we are alone here in our perspective, gordon. we wear the snowy river hat and walk the snowy river walk. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: more money grab in the last days of a broken society on its deathbed +1 Does anyone else see

Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

2014-04-01 Thread Gary Hurst
if you quit eating garbage and spent an hour a day in some sort of movement, you'd never have a need for a doctor. or you can choose a life of dependency on big pharma instead On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:48 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The group is independent of insurance programs,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Gary Hurst
dan is out of the school biz. the public schools are an absolute and total loss. we need to go back to the old way, where the dumb kids were at work at 14 and the really bright ones went to princeton. instead we fund another stupid government scam and spout buzzwords to confuse the idiotic

Re: [MBZ] Battery charger question - W123 300TD

2014-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
My 73 Land Rover was positive earth. On Mar 31, 2014 9:41 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: how am I supposed to know this? [positive vs negative ground] You look, or use a meter. The last positive ground vehicle I can think of is, I _think_, a VW beetle. Old one, 6V. It's just

Re: [MBZ] You know you want these

2014-04-01 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Where's the spinners? You can't pimp out a car without spinners. Also, why buy the whole wheel if you aren't going to have spinners. Walmart has genuine imitation Testerossa hub cabs for less than $20 per set. I have them on my 240D and they look cool. Gerry On 3/31/2014 10:30 PM, Rich

Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

2014-04-01 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Average annual physicians salaries in U.S. after 21 to 25 years of education at a cost of thousands of dollars. Wealthy? No, just in the upper middle class along with lawyers and many small businessmen. http://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physicians-and-surgeons.htm Gerry I did not read that

Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

2014-04-01 Thread rogerhga
-2 mao We need someone to bring our country back from the broken society / deathbed. Some may disagree, and personally I don't care, but Ronald Reagan brought us back from Jimmy Carter. Now we need someone to bring us back from this equally worthless Barack Obama. I don't know who it will be,

Re: [MBZ] 115 headliner, jabba the hurst

2014-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No I'm not, I wil check me stash first and see what I have. Never heard from jabba so I will order from az I guess Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:50 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I have front check straps in good condition, if you are not put off by used parts clay

Re: [MBZ] weekend projects

2014-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Attaboy Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Finally had the first decent weekend weather in 6 months. (so much for global warming. The new ice age is here!) Took off the passenger door handle and got it to work, put it back. It was

Re: [MBZ] weekend projects

2014-04-01 Thread Jim Cathey
Dead battery, but the alternator is putting out 13.5 V Bad diode can still result in good (-ish) voltage, but still have other ills. Or you have a leak. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] weekend projects

2014-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas
I fixed one of the regulators on the TD with a small bolt but I had to grind the top and nut off a bit to get it to clear the other bits. --R On 4/1/14 12:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Pushed the rivet in the hole, and it popped right out. Anvil, cold chisel, BFH. I used the point of the

Re: [MBZ] weekend projects

2014-04-01 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 12:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] weekend projects Finally had the first decent weekend weather in 6 months. (so much for global warming.

Re: [MBZ] weekend projects

2014-04-01 Thread WILTON
Yep, 'nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] weekend projects I finally got my antenna up, wire strung from the hangar roof (ground plane

Re: [MBZ] weekend projects

2014-04-01 Thread WILTON
'Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] weekend projects I fixed one of the regulators on the TD with a small bolt

Re: [MBZ] Battery charger question - W123 300TD

2014-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell
On 31/03/2014 8:41 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: how am I supposed to know this? [positive vs negative ground] You look, or use a meter. The last positive ground vehicle I can think of is, I _think_, a VW beetle. Old one, 6V. It's just a convention, and there's little technical reason to have it

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What age group are you taking about? High school level? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:47 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school business. However, I belong to a group of people who have

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread G Mann
First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school business. However, I belong to a group of people who have taken the time to actually read the books which are to be used to teach the common core classrooms. If you were educated any time before 1990 you

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Just an interesting fact you all might find disturbing: The entire US high school population is outnumbered in both India and China by the top 10% (in achievement, etc.) of their students. From what little I know about the CC, it does not appear it will address the fact above very well.

[MBZ] Fwd: Facebook - was: Unintentional Loop at Takeoff on a Carrier- - -

2014-04-01 Thread Tim Crone
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: In order to even see your listings on Facebook, I am required to JOIN facebook. Immediately upon joining facebook my entire contact with the internet is suddenly overwhelmed with popups and trash generated by my I

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Tim Crone
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Just an interesting fact you all might find disturbing: The entire US high school population is outnumbered in both India and China by the top 10% (in achievement, etc.) of their students. Also

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell
https://www.google.ca/#q=england+adopts+sharia+law This scares the you know what out of me. Canada is so mamby pamby on this sort of thing that it will probably come to us too. Our young Mr. Trudeau wants to be PM and hangs out with this crowd telling them how he can fix things for them.

Re: [MBZ] weekend projects

2014-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell
On 01/04/2014 8:22 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Dead battery, but the alternator is putting out 13.5 V Bad diode can still result in good (-ish) voltage, but still have other ills. Or you have a leak. -- Jim ___ Shouldn't the alternator put out about 14.2V?

Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

2014-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Oh please, quit whining. Move to Canada. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:44 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: -2 mao We need someone to bring our country back from the broken society / deathbed. Some may disagree, and personally I don't care, but Ronald Reagan brought us back from Jimmy Carter.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Gary Hurst
where it's at not is that the good student are better than ever, the middle ground is disappearing and the vast majority have no reason to be there and stand simply to be slaves forever to the top kids i judge debate. the top kids are GREAT . much better than in my day On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Michael Canfield
Do some more research. That is not what it is all about. With Common Core there is no time to teach. Each lesson is provided on a daily basis and on to the next the very next day with no time for the teacher to pass on the info. How can every student learn every lesson in 1 hour or less?

Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

2014-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell
Come on up. We might let Andrew in too. Randy On 01/04/2014 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Oh please, quit whining. Move to Canada. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:44 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: -2 mao We need someone to bring our country back from the broken society / deathbed. Some may

[MBZ] Self correcting economy

2014-04-01 Thread Van Knutson
We need someone to bring our country back from the broken society / deathbed. Some may disagree, and personally I don't care, but Ronald Reagan brought us back from Jimmy Carter. Now we need someone to bring us back from this equally worthless Barack Obama. I don't know who it will be, but we

Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy

2014-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Van Knutson wrote: The market always self corrects, with or

Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy

2014-04-01 Thread Rick Knoble
Ford had some shots fired at him.

[MBZ] POOS SL

2014-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thinking about buying this, what do you think? http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/4399075777.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] POOS SL

2014-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
Dunno. Would have to see it in person. Some things I would definitely ask: Service records? Check top hydraulics (look for leaks and check the pump/reservoir under the spare tire) 97 and later are the better years, as they have the better tranny and no issues with evaporators and wiring

[MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)

2014-04-01 Thread G. M. Brown
SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
The biggest problem with all this educational garbage is that no one will stick with anything long enough to determine if it's effective. Floriduh is all about the bright shiny educational theory, and in doing so, doesn't have enough consistency to have collected enough data for any sort of

Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)

2014-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
Amen brother On Apr 1, 2014 6:22 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy

2014-04-01 Thread G Mann
U... Iran Embassy takeover.. hostages held for the entire duration of Carters office? And no shots fired.. yes .. that was a success, wasn't it? {All Embassy holdings are considered by all nations as Sovereign Soil of the Nation Embassy} ... Sorry... I can't count that as a score for the

Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

2014-04-01 Thread Mountain Man
Gary wrote: we are alone here in our perspective, gordon. we wear the snowy river hat and walk the snowy river walk. Okay, we can do that - it's good company. Anyone else? Tell us this is not the american way? I say it is part of the JFK ask what you can do for your country. mao

Re: [MBZ] POOS SL

2014-04-01 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote: Thinking about buying this, what do you think? Kaleb joins geezer clan. Another 'stang. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)

2014-04-01 Thread Mountain Man
Dwight wrote: Amen brother Holy... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the

Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy

2014-04-01 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: ...perhaps we should argue religion... Again, holy... Yeah, lets do religion. Or, perhaps we hack okiebenz to broke and then bring it back after a month and we can all tell what wonderful things we are doing now that our benz is broke and thrown away. I bet my 3-pedal benz will

[MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs

2014-04-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
One of the great things about wrenching on my 300TD and 300SD and reading this list is the Diesel knowledge I gained. Probably like most, all my previous experience was with gassers. Since I owned two Diesel sail boats and nor a Diesel tractor (plus the 300SD) and this Diesel knowledge had

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
IMO, it's time (well, long past time) to bust the trusts of the education monopoly. The question is how? Abolishing the US Depart of Education would be a good start. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Tuesday, April 01,

Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD

2014-04-01 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip

Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

2014-04-01 Thread clay
I do not play with big pharma I like my Doc, so it is worth the fee to retain access. He understands my choice to only seek the least amount of care clay On Mar 31, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: if you quit eating garbage and spent an hour a day in some sort of movement, you'd never

Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)

2014-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
Humor a plea. On Apr 1, 2014 7:27 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dwight wrote: Amen brother Holy... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy

2014-04-01 Thread clay
James Carter had lust in his heart and was afeared of swimming rabbits. There was not enough spine in that man to deal with world issues. He did have a nice gathering at Camp David that had no impact, other than good press. We had 440 days of very embarrassing cowardice under his watch.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
Not to pick a fight, but isn't that exactly how the world really works? Companies and countries rise and fall on the decisions and actions of a few leaders and other key people even if everyone else is doing good work. I recall several cases when my company lost money because of the actions of a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
Mark Steyn (a Canadian) has a lot to say on this subject if you care to watch his videos (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mark+steynislam or read his books (e.g. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooksfield -keywords=mark+steyn. The demographic

Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

2014-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I should clarify this: My ability to get an increase in pay and keep my job is not determined by how well the students I teach directly perform, but how well students whom I never have contact with do. To add to this, a percentage of those student may be special ed kids who get tested like

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs

2014-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes for me too on my two 240D's, my 300D 2.5t my 300CD. I hope the list can maintain some of this diesel wrenching tradition even as it overhauls education health care. On Apr 1, 2014 7:59 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: One of the great things about wrenching on my 300TD and

Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy

2014-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV THe french society in the late 1700s corrected after the

Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy

2014-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan that doesn't save him from being the second worst president in history, and the second weakest president in

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs

2014-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
Hmmm. Diesel driven health care and education? I think we may be on to something... Klatta-klatta We need to be sure to CHECK THE FUSES, though. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes for me too on my two 240D's, my 300D 2.5t my

Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD

2014-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs

2014-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
Yes for me too on my two 240D's, my 300D 2.5t my 300CD. I hope the list can maintain some of this diesel wrenching tradition even as it overhauls education health care. On Apr 1, 2014 7:59 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: One of the great things about wrenching on my 300TD and

[MBZ] Hey Andrew!

2014-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
Did you get the offlist messages I sent you about the wheels? Re-sent yesterday again since I never got any response. Are you mad at me? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

[MBZ] at first this seemed like a decent car

2014-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
but it appears to have much rust, and what the heck happened to the door panels. Still interesting.

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs

2014-04-01 Thread Mountain Man
Dwight wrote: I hope the list can maintain some of this diesel wrenching tradition even as it overhauls education health care. We need to define terms. Education as fedgov indoctrinates is not practical, essentially. Health care as fedgov speaks is insco, not care. Care is eating and

[MBZ] 124 rear suspension

2014-04-01 Thread WILTON
What should mech. and I look for on my 124 ('87 300D w/135 kmi) rear suspension tomorrow afternoon? Loose or worn stuff, that is. Car has felt squirrelly recently; pumped up tires a bit; 'found rt. rear slightly low. 'Drives a little better. Wilt ___

Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension

2014-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
What should mech. and I look for on my 124 ('87 300D w/135 kmi) rear suspension tomorrow afternoon? Loose or worn stuff, that is. Car has felt squirrelly recently; pumped up tires a bit; 'found rt. rear slightly low. 'Drives a little better. Wilt __ If the links on each side are not

Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension

2014-04-01 Thread Peter Frederick
Here's the drill: ANY link with a displaced center or shreds of rubber needs to be replaced. Symptoms of bad links are torque steer (especially on acceleration) and excessive sensitivity to crosswinds. Check for uneven wear on rear tires -- droopy shocks will cause them to wear on the

Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension

2014-04-01 Thread WILTON
Yep, it's excessively sensitive to crosswinds, but haven't noticed any need to hold left or right rudder during acceleration. ;) 'Even felt dangerous enough to scare me, though, several days ago at 70 mph in crosswind. Was much better after inflating tires (rt. rear was low) to proper

Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension

2014-04-01 Thread WILTON
Yep, if it needs repair, I'll have the mech/tech do it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension What should mech. and I look for on

Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension

2014-04-01 Thread Jim Cathey
Even felt dangerous enough to scare me, Worst handling car I've ever driven was our 190D with _slightly_ bad rear links. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery