Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words

2008-02-21 Thread Zoltan Finks
I know. quixotic - nice. Time for dictionary.com Brian. Gary wrote:i see no answer to this situation. again, no future. a few will fight, but it is quixotic and, frankly, silly. most will just keep watching american idol and at least be terrorized into paying lip service allegiance to the

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words

2008-02-21 Thread Gary Hurst
it's from a famous book . as a product of our public schools, you couldn't possibly know that On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know. quixotic - nice. Time for dictionary.com Brian. Gary wrote:i see no answer to this situation. again, no future. a

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words

2008-02-21 Thread Harry Watkins
BrianI wrote: I take comfort in this notion as I see us almost invariably being the butt of every joke and ridiculous depiction in commercials and television and film. You know - the bumbling, child-like husband being chastised by the wife, or the stupid white guy who is generally backwards and

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Football

2008-02-20 Thread Hendrik Fay
My understanding is that it originated around the time of the American civil war, when a bunch of white southerners would get together to terrorize the plantation workers into behaving themselves and not go running off. Sort of an early version of the KKK and would wear a red bandanna around

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Football

2008-02-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik Fay wrote: My understanding is that it originated around the time of the American civil war, when a bunch of white southerners would get together to terrorize the plantation workers into behaving themselves and not go running off. So a redneck cracker is a redneck whipcracker?

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Football

2008-02-20 Thread Jeff Zedic
Usually associated with conservative and/or reactionary values, and a general lack of education. -- Jim Finally!!Someone gives the world proof! Bush is a redneck! Woohoo! (And the people rejoiced and life was good) Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-20 Thread Gary Hurst
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football Bzzzt, wrong. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chav Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. Alex, That's not the definition as we

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words

2008-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
I guess the stereotypical so-called rednecks use the pejorative term about one another, much like some blacks like to bandy about the N-word, as a form of desensitization. Perhaps it's a way of saying I hereby adopt use of this term about myself so you can't hurt me by calling me that derogatory

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words

2008-02-20 Thread Zoltan Finks
Refreshing to hear this acknowledged by someone other than me. I touched upon this in a paper I wrote for school. It goes without saying it wasn't a very Berkely-like institution or I would be expelled and probably detained for re-education and put on some sort of watch list. (sorry, Ernest).

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words

2008-02-20 Thread Gary Hurst
the white man and those who wish to live as white men don't need or want nanny to protect them against their enemies. besides, we have figured out that nanny hates us, so there isn't much point in asking for help anyway. no doubt that we are in severe decline as a force in the world and have no

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words

2008-02-20 Thread E M
I'm a gearhead and proud of it. hee hee. Ed 300E On 20/02/2008, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the stereotypical so-called rednecks use the pejorative term about one another, much like some blacks like to bandy about the N-word, as a form of desensitization. Perhaps

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
CHAVS? Please explain. On Feb 16, 2008 10:49 AM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as weird is the fact that Chelsea is one of the most expensive places to live in London and most of their fans are CHAVS. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread Jeff Zedic
CHAVS is a derogatory term for ...well.yobs.or perhaps, low-class inbred rednecks. It's an acronym for council houses and violence Violent welfare cases. They live up to their name Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 19, 2008 9:30 AM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CHAVS is a derogatory term for ...well.yobs.or perhaps, low-class inbred rednecks. It's an acronym for council houses and violence Bzzzt, wrong. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chav Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al.

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Redneck is a racist term. The R word as it should be known. --R (not that R) Jeff Zedic wrote: CHAVS is a derogatory term for ...well.yobs.or perhaps, low-class inbred rednecks. It's an acronym for council houses and violence Violent welfare cases. They live up to their name

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread Gary Hurst
zedic is a gypsy? inter visits liverpool. barcelona goes to celtic. zedic is a gypsy a big news day! On Feb 19, 2008 12:39 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2008 9:30 AM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CHAVS is a derogatory term for ...well.yobs.or

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread Jeff Zedic
Redneck is racist? How so? Anyone know where it originated? Zedic, the travelling gypsy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread Jeff Zedic
Bzzzt, wrong. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chav Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. Alex, That's not the definition as we understand it in the UK...well, at least among the people I know. There's no Romanis there but lots of pikies, Zedic ___

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread Gary Hurst
there are a few stories as to origins. redneck is really not considered bad. On Feb 19, 2008 2:45 PM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Redneck is racist? How so? Anyone know where it originated? Zedic, the travelling gypsy ___

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words

2008-02-19 Thread Rich Thomas
It is a stereotyping term used to denigrate mostly rural white (caucasian) people, mainly southern US, to suggest lower socioeconomic class, dumb, given to stupid things, NASCAR racing fans, etc. As used in popular culture (especially among the eastern elite) it characterizes an entire class

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 19, 2008 11:48 AM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bzzzt, wrong. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chav Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. Alex, That's not the definition as we understand it in the UK...well, at least among the people I know. There's no Romanis

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-19 Thread Robert Rentfro
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football Bzzzt, wrong. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chav Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. Alex, That's not the definition as we understand it in the UK...well, at least among the people I know. There's no Romanis there but lots of pikies

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Football

2008-02-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Redneck is racist? How so? Not really. But can be associated with it. Anyone know where it originated? Farmers/ranchers. White people who worked out in the sun all day. Their necks get red. Don't see how it could really apply to a black. Usually associated with conservative and/or

Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football

2008-02-16 Thread Jeff Zedic
Just as weird is the fact that Chelsea is one of the most expensive places to live in London and most of their fans are CHAVS. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL