> Here is an attorneys defense
> of such cases from another list, and then a physicians explanation of the
> MacDonalds case:
--
> "The fact that these cases are conceivable to people may simply be a
> reflection that people have been fed a nonstop pr
I only drink free range coffee now anyways.
On Jan 2, 2008 3:11 PM, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting that you mention this. There was a very
> spirited conversation at a party I went to this week
> about how Bunn coffeemakers were the only ones that
> made "good" coffee, and tha
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From: "Bill " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Unlike the claims that come out in a trial [absolutely ridiculous, from
> what
> I have heard from friends], I do not believe that the intention was to
> injure anyone. It would be plain silly to suggest malice as a reason.
> Havi
Wow,. personal responsibility -- that'll never fly. We got a pretty boy
trial lawyer who made millions suing big drug companies (and no doubt he
would have been all over McD's too if he had got there quick enough),
thus driving up health care costs, running for president telling us
health care
d. I don't believe the glass of the press has any
better insulating properties than the ceramic of my mug but the press is
covered.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:00:43 -0500
From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Mercedes Discussion List
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to see if you could track a sympathy buying
pattern around the time of the lawsuit...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:54:50 -0500
From: "Bill " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Jan 2, 2008 3:00 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Coffee in a covered styrofoam cup will stay hot for a LONG time.
>
Leaching carcinogens into the coffee all the while! How anyone can stand to
drink from a hot Styrofoam cup is beyond me. I can taste the chemicals in
every sip.
if it is hot, you complain and get rich. if it is cold, you complain and
drink crappy coffee. can you imagine a world in which they will be serving
coffee at 140 degrees? or better yet, just ban to go coffee sales as "too
dangerous."
have i ever made mention of how much i hate the world i live
live Garden in
> Orlando and the Zuppa Toscana
> was spicier. How much leeway do they give the local
> chef?
> BillR
>
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> On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:20
Coffee in a covered styrofoam cup will stay hot for a LONG time. Much
longer than coffee in an uncovered ceramic mug or even most
automobile-style "travel" mugs. Adjust your expectations accordingly.
Allan
--
1983 300D
1966 230
"Bill " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've never spilled hot coff
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Oh and if you put coffee between your legs and it burns you you get what you
get. Coffee is supposed to be hot, if it was cold you'd complain. A cup
thats b
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UGH DD is pretty poor. I'll get it only because sometimes I like having
coffee in the car and refuse to go to McDs for anything even though their
coffee is pretty good, which I found out by accident.
You want good coffee you get Tim Hortons...
Or barrin
Oh and if you put coffee between your legs and it burns you you get what you
get. Coffee is supposed to be hot, if it was cold you'd complain. A cup thats
between your legs is full of stuff thats going to get on you.
The first thing to do is to admit that you do stupid stuff, then look at your
rom a cart.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:29:33 -0500
From: "Bill " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Too bad they
f Allan Streib
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards
Yes, I am sure the discussion at McDonald's headquarters went
something like this:
"What's the matter, Ron?"
"Well Don, we've run flat out of i
Interesting that you mention this. There was a very
spirited conversation at a party I went to this week
about how Bunn coffeemakers were the only ones that
made "good" coffee, and that was because of how hot
they got the water.
Dan
--- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Robbins wr
y is the right color.
> From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:23:09 -0500
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards
>
> John Robbins wrote:
>> probably some benefit to ke
John Robbins wrote:
> probably some benefit to keeping the coffee that hot
"We've got the hottest, freshest brew in town!!!"
The paperwork with the Bunn home brewer claims that it maintains a
tank of 190 degree water because it's the perfect brewing temperature.
If you brew at 190 and serve it
Allan Streib wrote:
> Yes, I am sure the discussion at McDonald's headquarters went
> something like this:
>
> "What's the matter, Ron?"
>
> "Well Don, we've run flat out of ideas on how to scr*w our customers."
>
> "No problem Ron, I've been working on a new idea on how we can burn
> them w
Not at all what I am saying, Allan. Management knew about the problem but
chose to ignore it, as fixing matters would cost a few $$ or 2) maybe they
were afraid that a few customers would complain because they were used to
scalding hot coffee
Anyway, McD is long over this incident and more po
Yes, I am sure the discussion at McDonald's headquarters went
something like this:
"What's the matter, Ron?"
"Well Don, we've run flat out of ideas on how to scr*w our customers."
"No problem Ron, I've been working on a new idea on how we can burn
them with our coffee!"
"Wow! Sounds great,
ally presented to be. At any
> rate, I have stopped using it as an example until I know a bit more about
> it.
> BillR
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of archer
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:31 AM
&
Another college story -- in a rocket engineering class the prof told of
the time when some wiseass (supposedly anonymous, but he knew lots of
the details) hooked up a 2000 psi water line to the rocket lab toilet
(one of those direct injection kind) at a school that sounded like the
one he atten
I saw a demo in the development lab of the
"redesigned" toilet, and to show how strong they were
there were guys jumping up and down on one.
The story I really enjoyed was about the time plumbers
were pressure testing in an addition to an existing
building, and while doing so, guillotined a guy's
Ah, well I was looking at the Grohe UK catalog which has all sorts of
nice
things as compared to usa catalog and *was* wondering why the wall hung
toilet assemblies looked more like a structure you'd find on front of
a fork lift.
On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:00 PM, LWB250 wrote:
> ///
> One of my f
If that makes you mad, you should hear some of the
stories I would hear when working with the legal dept.
at Kohler. While our division had some interesting
litigation from time to time that we had to work on,
the plumbing division had some real doozies.
One of my favorites was the 600-700 pound
Kaleb,
Thanks for doing the research..
Happy New Year to your new family.
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Dec 31, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Man that kind of stuff makes me mad. While Im sure crazy stuff like
> this goes on, these are false
>
> http://www.snopes.com/legal
to be. At any
rate, I have stopped using it as an example until I know a bit more about
it.
BillR
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Subject: [MBZ] Stella Aw
Man that kind of stuff makes me mad. While Im sure crazy stuff like
this goes on, these are false
http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp
archer wrote:
> It's time again for the annual "Stella Awards"! For those
> unfamiliar with these awards, they are named after 81-year-old Stella
> Liebeck
It's time again for the annual "Stella Awards"! For those
unfamiliar with these awards, they are named after 81-year-old Stella
Liebeck who spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued the
McDonald's in New Mexico where she purchased the coffee. You remember,
she took the lid off the coffe
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