Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-11 Thread Loren Faeth
Wow, those look like factory manual pictures of working on new cars. Sure must be nice to live where cad plating never goes away, and steel never rusts and the oil never leaks off of old Diesels and turns everything black! All my 20 yr old Diesels have had no cad plating since the spring aft

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-09 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:33:16 -0400, Mathieu wrote: > Curt, > > See my pm to you. Private message??!!!?? What about all the rest of us that want to learn too? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-09 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
You are correct. With automatics I often refer to the flex plate as flywheel. Incorrect, I know, just one of my quirks. Sorry for the confusion. On Sep 7, 2007, at 9:45 PM, OK Don wrote: > I was responding to Mathieu's statement: "First off the flywheel will > require balancing to match that

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-07 Thread OK Don
I was responding to Mathieu's statement: "First off the flywheel will require balancing to match that of the flex plate on the m617." I also thought that the flex plate would be insignificant, which is why I asked for clarification. On 9/7/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Flywheel

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Flywheel, not flex plate. The flex plate is pretty much insignificant, but a Benz flywheel is not. Peter On Sep 7, 2007, at 7:36 PM, OK Don wrote: > Are the flex plates on the auto 617s realy balanced with the crank, > etc.? Doesn't seem like it has that much mass, and would be close to > bala

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-07 Thread OK Don
Are the flex plates on the auto 617s realy balanced with the crank, etc.? Doesn't seem like it has that much mass, and would be close to balanced out of the box. Now I konw that when I had a V8 balanced in the early '70s, they wanted EVERYTHING that was attached to the crank. The couple of flex pla

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-07 Thread Luther
paying me good money to spend several days at your house Luther On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:18:07 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a manual 240D with a I think a dead cylinder. I have a good euro 5 > cyl engine which is auto. What would it take to drop the eur

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-07 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
I sure > would. Figure to replace the main seals at least while its out. > It'd stink to get it in there and develop a leak... > > -Curt > > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:03:21 -0400 > From: Mathieu J. Cama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion &g

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:03:21 -0400 From: Mathieu J. Cama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Oops seems the links got chopped. Here are

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-07 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
Craig, Just because you got lucky does not mean that all m617s will not require the flywheel to be match balanced. Each motor is different and MUST be handled on a case by case basis. A good machinist typically charges under $150 to match the balancing, sometimes even far less than that. Is th

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:35:05 -0400 Mathieu J. Cama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kaleb, > > You will have a few obstacles to overcome. First off the flywheel will > require balancing to match that of the flex plate on the m617. Having done this myself, I can say this is not really necessary. Cr

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-06 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
Kaleb, You will have a few obstacles to overcome. First off the flywheel will require balancing to match that of the flex plate on the m617. The m616 had neutral balanced flywheels where-as the m617's flywheel was balanced with the crank at the factory and is not necessarily neutral balanced.

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion > Oops seems the links got chopped. Here are the corrected links: > > http://www.oldworldauto.com/Images/HeitzsoDay1/index.htm > http://w

Re: [MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-06 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
Oops seems the links got chopped. Here are the corrected links: http://www.oldworldauto.com/Images/HeitzsoDay1/index.htm http://www.oldworldauto.com/Images/HeitzsoDay2/index.htm http://www.oldworldauto.com/Images/HeitzsoDay3/index.htm On Sep 6, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Mathieu J. Cama wrote: > For tho

[MBZ] 240d 3.0 conversion

2007-09-06 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
For those of you who may be interested, I just finished converting a w123 240d to a 240d 3.0. The m617 used was a Euro-spec motor originally set up for manual transmission (617.912.10.xx) and the chassis was a manual trans car thus making it a simple conversion. The original 240d motor thre