Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey
> One question: Do I need to be concerned with adding additional oil to > the > system? Or is there a way to check? (I have not located the dipstick > on > the compressor.) Yorks had dipsticks. Everything else is guess and by golly. It might not hurt to add an ounce or two, as the stuff leak

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-05 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:40:54, Peter Frederick wrote: If the R12 leaked out you need to replace all the o-rings anyway. = First of all, based on the experience of this list, I'll stick to the R12. In the 11+ years I owned the car

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
> Remember that the later W124s came from the factory with R134a. Only > the expansion valve is different -- and if you get a new expansion > valve, it's for R134a. They knew R134a was coming, they could have switched to larger parts early. I'm a big fan of a R290/R600a mix. About $8 per charge

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
> - Original Message - > From: "ANGELO GIAIMO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:31 AM > Subject: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126 > > >> Once again, I ask the MB Gods for their net-wisdom. >> >> The A/C in

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread Bill R
miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126 I staying with R-12 for my 124 and 126. Wilton - Original Message -

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread Wilton Strickland
I staying with R-12 for my 124 and 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: "ANGELO GIAIMO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126 > Once again, I ask the MB Gods for their net-wisdom. > > The A/C

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
If the R12 leaked out you need to replace all the o-rings anyway. I'm satisfied with my conversion on the 300D -- flushed the condenser, charged with PAG 46, and fully evacuated. That latter is vitally important -- even a small amount of air will greatly reduce the cooling capacity at low spe

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread dave walton
Does this info look legit: http://reviews.ebay.com/Freeze-12-Refrigerant-R134a_W0QQugidZ105615895 -Dave Walton On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DO NOT convert to R134 if you want your a/c to actually cool. If you > want it to be like it is now for

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aside from the comfort, 134 is not compatible with the seals > in the system and you will be buying a new compressor and having to > replace every oring. Ditto. People tend to look only at the price of R-12 vs. R-134 and th

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread Loren Faeth
DO NOT convert to R134 if you want your a/c to actually cool. If you want it to be like it is now forever, then go ahead. As alternatives to R12, there is Freeze 12 commercially available. We have used it for commercial refrigeration for years. It is completely blendable with R12. IF you wa

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread John Robbins
ANGELO GIAIMO wrote: > Once again, I ask the MB Gods for their net-wisdom. > > The A/C in my 1990 350SDL (now at 270K Miles) is not cooling like it > should (OK for the low 80's, but above that, fugataboutit). My old > supplier of R-12 does not carry it any anymore, so...I guess I need

Re: [MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread pm7088
My '87 300SDL had been converted to 134a by P.O. It work ok here {Connecticut}, not great but very acceptable. My $.02 Pete -- Original message -- From: ANGELO GIAIMO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Once again, I ask the MB Gods for their net-wisdom. > > The A/C in my

[MBZ] A/C Retrofit on a 126

2008-08-04 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO
Once again, I ask the MB Gods for their net-wisdom. The A/C in my 1990 350SDL (now at 270K Miles) is not cooling like it should (OK for the low 80's, but above that, fugataboutit). My old supplier of R-12 does not carry it any anymore, so...I guess I need to convert the system over to