Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Electric vehicles ... exist to indulge the emasculated pussies who drive them. Bah. _Steam_ is what real men drive. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-10 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Electric vehicles have both pros and cons but at the heart of it they all share one defining quality - that they exist to indulge the emasculated pussies who drive them. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > There has to be another,

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There has to be another, non-polluting way. That will not be allowed. On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 2:31 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Great idea, except for the huge cloud of toxic emissions created by burning > composite materials, all on the HAZMAT list. > OOps ! > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:21

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Great idea, except for the huge cloud of toxic emissions created by burning composite materials, all on the HAZMAT list. OOps ! On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:21 AM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > You could recycle the blades by burning them to power a steam generator - > get more electricity out of

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You could recycle the blades by burning them to power a steam generator - get more electricity out of them. On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:19 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Carbon fiber is remember, carbon. They burn the resin off of it and run > it again. > > Last I

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-10 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I give Tesla credit for showing the market that an EV didn't have to look like a comic book car or drive like a glorified golf cart and could have a range that might actually cover ones needs on most days. I wish they hadn't gotten so distracted with self-driving technology and had just

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Carbon fiber is remember, carbon. They burn the resin off of it and run it > again. Last I heard, carbon burns too. Easily, in fact. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I thought the "problem" with EVs was the loss of industry jobs due to too > few moving parts and not enough labor required to repair/maintain them. If it weren't for the problem of batteries, the IC engine would never have beaten electric in the first place. The problem continues. Overall,

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Green States like Wyoming, Texas, and Oklahoma? On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 8:55 PM Clay via Mercedes wrote: > The issue on windmills are the blades. Not useful for anything, as they > are fiberglass or composite and hard to make use of at end of life. Maybe > shoring up slopes or as landfill.

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Clay via Mercedes
The issue on windmills are the blades. Not useful for anything, as they are fiberglass or composite and hard to make use of at end of life. Maybe shoring up slopes or as landfill. Could be useful as housing (living inside) given the rapidly rising price for homes in Green states where the

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I agree, this "I can check it from my phone" is just stupid. If you can't be bothered to set your EV charger at the charger, which you had to plug in anyway, you kind of deserve to get hacked... -Curt On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 03:33:10 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Like most industrial devices, EV chargers should probably not be connected to the internet. On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Major-Problem-With-EVs-No-One-Is-Talking-About.html > > > Rick >

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The fiberglass blades have finite life spans (stress fatigue) and are landfilled on a regular basis.  A lot of nasty stuff goes into making them too, then they will last a few thousand years in a landfill or stacked somewhere. On 9/9/21 3:12 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Windmills are almost

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Major-Problem-With-EVs-No-One-Is-Talking-About.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Carbon fiber is remember, carbon. They burn the resin off of it and run it again. Concrete gets used in every house and building are you suggesting those constructions get a pass? How many yards of concrete are used in even a tiny refinery? Those get regularly rebuilt too. -Curt On

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I thought the big windmill blades were carbon-fibre/composite material? I don't know if that's readily recyclable. They also have big concrete footings and concrete production is a big CO2 emitter. On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Who says they can't be

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Doesn't seem like much of a conspiracy theory to imagine that the automakers are absolutely salivating over "green" vehicle trends and mandates that will force *everyone* to buy new cars. That said, I don't much buy into the idea that GM, big oil, and tire companies killed passenger rail and

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Who says they can't be recycled? Lithium batteries are very recyclable, PVs are mostly silica with a thin layer of metal, also very recyclable and they don't really wear out. Even after their 30 year "lifespan" they still produce electricity, just less of it. Windmills are almost completely

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
There seems to be plenty of child slave labor in Africa to mine the minerals needed for batteries and such, and the Chinese are well-positioned to get plenty of minerals and slave labor from the Tollybahns, so "we" should be good on that front for awhile...  and the Wokesters will be able to

Re: [MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I thought the "problem" with EVs was the loss of industry jobs due to too few moving parts and not enough labor required to repair/maintain them. On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 2:32 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Moving toward electron-powered cars it looks like. More

[MBZ] AMG Is Downsizing The Cheap Stuff

2021-09-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Moving toward electron-powered cars it looks like.  More expensive, more complex, more problematic and inclined to fail with huge repair costs... https://jalopnik.com/amg-is-downsizing-the-cheap-stuff-1847636714 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To