[MBZ] Another Fluid Question

2013-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Brake fluid. DOT 3 for my W140, correct? I have a couple of the sheets with the various specifications for fluids, etc., but none are old enough to cover my car. Some do have references to older model years, but not all. Just want to be sure before I do some brake fluid flushing this week

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2013-03-10 Thread Peter Frederick
I haven't used DOT 3 for at least 30 years now. Use DOT 4, and I suspect it's what you need anyway since you have disk brakes. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/a

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2013-03-10 Thread dseretakis
No!!! DOT 4. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Brake fluid. DOT 3 for my W140, correct? > > I have a couple of the sheets with the various specifications for fluids, > etc., but none are old enough to cover my car. Some do have references to > older model

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2013-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Thanks, guys. I could never remember which one was correct. I was thinking the the later fluid (DOT 4) would actually damage some brake system components if used in a car that required DOT 3. Something else to add to the shopping list Dan On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:47 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.c

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2013-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Something else I almost forgot - any recommendations for gear oil (differential) as far as brands? Dan On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Thanks, guys. I could never remember which one was correct. I was thinking > the the later fluid (DOT 4) would actually damage some brake sy

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2013-03-10 Thread Craig
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:53:02 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > Something else I almost forgot - any recommendations for gear oil > (differential) as far as brands? Mobil1, which is what I use. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okieb

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2013-03-10 Thread Fmiser
> Dan Penoff wrote: > Brake fluid. DOT 3 for my W140, correct? On W123's, DOT3 will cause the hoses to swell. So I suspect the answer is "no DOT3" - but I don't know. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To s

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2013-03-10 Thread Allan Streib
As far as I know, DOT 3 and DOT 4 are compatible with the main difference being that DOT 4 has a higher boiling point. So you should be able to use DOT 4 in any vehicle that calls for DOT 3 (although the cost is slightly higher). DOT 5 is NOT compatible and at minimum requires a complete flush.

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2013-03-10 Thread Max Dillon
Second. Check to see if your car requires an additive to the differential, my '95 does for the ASD. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig wrote: >On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:53:02 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > >> Something else I almost forgot - any recommendations for

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2013-03-10 Thread Dieselhead
NO DOT 3 in ANY Mercedes Benz EVER! DOT 4 only! unless you change to DOT 5 with appropriate flushes. I generally don't allow the DOT 3 junk on the premises. DOT 3 will MELT YOUR PISTONS and DESTROY YOUR BRAKE SYSTEMS! (to Marshall>) > Dan Penoff wrote: Brake fluid. DOT 3 for my W

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2013-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No dot 4 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Brake fluid. DOT 3 for my W140, correct? > > I have a couple of the sheets with the various specifications for fluids, > etc., but none are old enough to cover my car. Some do have references to > older model yea

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2013-03-10 Thread Fmiser
> > Dan Penoff wrote: > > > > Brake fluid. DOT 3 for my W140, correct? > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > > No dot 4 Kaleb, do you mean "No[, use] dot 4" or do you mean "No dot 4 [allowed in your car]" -- Philip, trying not to be confused ___ http://www.ok

Re: [MBZ] Another Fluid Question

2013-03-11 Thread Dan Penoff
According to the MB spec sheets there are no additives required. Why would ASD need an additive? There are no clutches in the differential, everything is done through the braking system. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Second. Check to see if your car

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2013-03-11 Thread Chris James
Dan, your thinking of ASR. Max's E300 has ASD (limited slip/auto locking diff) which does require special fluid. ASD was available on early'90s diesel & some 4&6cyl gas models (201/202/124?) here in the US. What model W140 do you have? On 3/11/2013 7:13 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: According to the

Re: [MBZ] Another Fluid Question

2013-03-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I have a 1995 S500 coupe, which has ASR, I believe. I'm going to have to check now Too many acronyms. Dan On Mar 11, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Chris James wrote: > Dan, your thinking of ASR. Max's E300 has ASD (limited slip/auto locking > diff) which does require special fluid. ASD was available

Re: [MBZ] Another Fluid Question

2013-03-11 Thread Max Dillon
The maintenance sheet for that job should tell you if any additive is required, or if the job is described in the FSM. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >I have a 1995 S500 coupe, which has ASR, I believe. I'm going to have >to check now > >T

Re: [MBZ] Another Fluid Question

2013-03-11 Thread Max Dillon
ASD has clutches for locking the differential, hydraulically activated when ABS computer tells the ASD computer that rear axle is turning faster than front wheels. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >According to the MB spec sheets there are no ad

Re: [MBZ] Another Fluid Question

2013-03-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yes it has asr Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > I have a 1995 S500 coupe, which has ASR, I believe. I'm going to have to > check now > > Too many acronyms. > > Dan > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Chris James wrote: > >> Dan, your thinking of ASR. M

Re: [MBZ] Another Fluid Question

2013-03-11 Thread Allan Streib
Craig writes: >> Something else I almost forgot - any recommendations for gear oil >> (differential) as far as brands? > > Mobil1, which is what I use. Seems I recall some complaints about certain diffs getting "noisy" with M1 gear oil. I've had it in my 300D for several years and not noticed a

Re: [MBZ] Another Fluid Question - ASR vs ETS

2013-03-11 Thread Chris James
I should have noted before (in case anyone is unfamiliar with the system), that ASR (Anti-Slip Regulation) also limits power to the engine as well as using the brakes to control wheel spin, depending on vehicle speed & degree of traction loss. The ETS (Electronic Traction Support) system that su