2000 Jetta TDI did 50-55 MPG
On Saturday, June 29, 2013, Gerry Archer wrote:
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> On 27/06/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
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>>> The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
>>> parts, which are all so small/insignificcant that they cost nearly
>>> nothing.
>>
On 27/06/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
parts, which are all so small/insignificcant that they cost nearly
nothing.
Sort of like having an old Chevy?
Randy
When the Smart came out with its poor numbers, and a M
Dieselhead wrote:
I got 28 to 32 mpg in my 1962 190Dc! FORTY years ago! A 5 seat sedan.
No A/c but i could set the heat seperately right or left. I could set
the fan speed anywhere I wanted it, and the "NAcc" always worked!
My mom's 62 Rambler did it on gasoline.
Mitch.
BZZZTTT! Wrong, 28mpg in a car that size that requires premium SUCKS.
For basically the same money you could have Ford Fiesta, use regular
gas and get BETTER highway mileage while having twice the car...
-Curt
Hear hear!
I got 28 to 32 mpg in my 1962 190Dc! FORTY years ago! A 5 seat
sedan
On Jun 27, 2013 8:17 AM, "Jim Cathey" wrote:
Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
So, right around what you get in an SDL.
Something that size ought to be 38, or 48.
The diesel Smart gets 50+ mpg; of course they don't sell that one in the
USA.
Alex
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>>> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:08:46 -0400
>>> From: Andrew Strasfogel
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Because they are proportionately smaller.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
> On Jun 27, 2013 11:39 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel"
> wrote:
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> > The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
> > parts, which are all so small/insignificcant that they co
On Jun 27, 2013 11:39 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote:
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> The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
> parts, which are all so small/insignificcant that they cost nearly
nothing.
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>
I don't understand why Smart parts should be any cheaper than parts for any
other modern
The measure where the Smart wins is "cute", though that one is in the eye
of the beholder ---
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> So buy a cheap Hyundai with the long warranty, get better fuel
> economy, more room, etc. though parking
7 Jun 2013 14:39:00 -0400
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The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
parts, which are all so small/insignifi
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
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> Does anyone know the long-term issues of the batteries in these cars? When
> will the battery require replacement? What does that cost? What are the
>
I don't know specifically for the newer cars, but per the folks who have
done manual
Behalf Of Curt
Raymond
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here? SMART
Electric cars make a lot of sense if you have a short commute and can keep
another car around for longer drives. We've oft considered one for Angie's
20 mile round trip
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain
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> The diesel Smart gets 50+ mpg; of course they don't sell that one in the
> USA.
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I saw a TV ad (!) for a diesel (!) Chevy (!) Cruze.
Given the amount of TV I've seen this year they must be running it pretty
heavily. Seems like it co
On 27/06/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
parts, which are all so small/insignificcant that they cost nearly nothing.
Sort of like having an old Chevy?
Randy
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e regular gas
>>> and get BETTER highway mileage while having twice the car...
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:08:46 -0400
>>> From: Andrew Strasfogel
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any TD
and get BETTER highway mileage while having twice the car...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:08:46 -0400
From: Andrew Strasfogel
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Fuel economy is not
e same money you could have Ford Fiesta, use regular gas
> and get BETTER highway mileage while having twice the car...
>
> -Curt
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:08:46 -0400
> From: Andrew Strasfogel
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any TDI
We could probably even convince the people she rents space from to put in an
outside outlet for her, it would be good PR for the office.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:40:11 -0500
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Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:05 AM, OK Don wrote:
> We see a lot of them here, even passing us at over 70
And an electric Smart car is not
Randy
On 27/06/2013 1:13 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
No not a Prius. That's a tree hugger pussymobile!
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
On 27/06/2013 11:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
The Smart El
No not a Prius. That's a tree hugger pussymobile!
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> On 27/06/2013 11:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> The Smart Electric is coming, tough. I may have to give that serious
>> consideration if I sell my white wagon...
> I t
On 27/06/2013 11:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
The Smart Electric is coming, tough. I may have to give that serious
consideration if I sell my white wagon...
I think I would rather have a Prius if it came to that.
The cab drivers around here say you cannot wear them out.
Randy
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The Smart Electric is coming, tough. I may have to give that serious
consideration if I sell my white wagon...
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
> On Jun 27, 2013 8:17 AM, "Jim Cathey" wrote:
> >>
> >> Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high tes
On Jun 27, 2013 8:17 AM, "Jim Cathey" wrote:
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>> Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
>
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> So, right around what you get in an SDL.
> Something that size ought to be 38, or 48.
>
The diesel Smart gets 50+ mpg; of course they don't sell that one in the
USA.
A
Maintenance costs are tiny, though. The 10K servicing cost like $150.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
>>
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> So, right around what you get in an SDL.
> Something that size ought to be 38, or 48.
>
>
Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
So, right around what you get in an SDL.
Something that size ought to be 38, or 48.
I think I'll wait!
-- Jim
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For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com
Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:05 AM, OK Don wrote:
> We see a lot of them here, even passing us at over 70 on the interstates.
> If they got better mileage than the Passat, we would have considered one,
> but the Passat is thre
We see a lot of them here, even passing us at over 70 on the interstates.
If they got better mileage than the Passat, we would have considered one,
but the Passat is three times the size -- --
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OK Don
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
_
He must have driven the Remedial
--R
On 6/27/13 10:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
That was a different, crappy Smart. The good ones are very roomy and fun
to drive.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:21 AM, wrote:
The passenger compartmen
That was a different, crappy Smart. The good ones are very roomy and fun
to drive.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:21 AM, wrote:
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> > The passenger compartment is also surprisingly roomy.
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> Are we talking about the same car? The
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:21 AM, wrote:
> The passenger compartment is also surprisingly roomy.
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Are we talking about the same car? The one time I drove a Smart I felt
like I was in a phone booth on wheels. I expected it to feel like a VW
Microbus with nothing behind the front seats, but i
Any time someone mentions a Smart, I think back to the BMW Isetta
which was somewhat smaller than the Smart. They were popular with
some students at the university until one came down Main Street
going pretty fast, hit a curb (someone said), and went airborne;
landing on the other side of of a
The passenger compartment is also surprisingly roomy.
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On Jun 26, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> They are surprisingly fun to drive. Seats are firm, you sit high, and they
> are peppy and handle nimbly.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Rich Thomas <
>
Any time someone mentions a Smart, I think back to the BMW Isetta which was
somewhat smaller than the Smart. They were popular with some students at
the university until one came down Main Street going pretty fast, hit a curb
(someone said), and went airborne; landing on the other side of of a
They are surprisingly fun to drive. Seats are firm, you sit high, and they
are peppy and handle nimbly.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> I have seen a couple of them for sale used. For a little go-kart they are
> might dear. A used
I have seen a couple of them for sale used. For a little go-kart they
are might dear. A used one 2-3yo was more than a new Focus I looked at.
--R
On 6/26/13 6:12 PM, OK Don wrote:
The Smart was designed by Swatch, who brought in MB for manufacturing
assistance, tehn sold the whole thing to
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