Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Dieselhead
On Jun 25, 2013 5:31 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski" wrote: HFO-1234yf sounds like its not a done deal yet. Mercedes made news by rejecting it over safety concerns. I think it's a bit hypocritical for anyone to reject a flammable refrigerant on safety grounds when the carmakers and buying public h

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have an commercial grade ac machine, actually 2 one for r12 one for r134 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > I suppose a 30lb can is the way to go, but I'd have to invest in a scale > and the appropriate connections to my gauge set. I don't do enough ca

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Heck, I guess I am going to buy a couple more 30lb drums this week while they are on sale. Already bought 4. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > HFO-1234yf sounds like its not a done deal yet. Mercedes made news by > rejecting it over safety concerns. T

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its not so much thats its just flammable, its that it produces hydrogen fluoride gas when it burns, which is very toxic. On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Jun 25, 2013 5:31 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski" wrote: > > > > HFO-1234yf sounds like its not a done > > deal yet. Mer

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jun 25, 2013 5:31 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski" wrote: > > HFO-1234yf sounds like its not a done > deal yet. Mercedes made news by > rejecting it over safety concerns. I think it's a bit hypocritical for anyone to reject a flammable refrigerant on safety grounds when the carmakers and buying public

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I suppose a 30lb can is the way to go, but I'd have to invest in a scale and the appropriate connections to my gauge set. I don't do enough cars to justify it... I'm much more interested in investing in R12 stuff. Jaime On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Jaime Kopchinski w

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: But still seems like a good idea to buy some R134a. I bought 12 cans on Amazon recently for $79. Ouch. And I thought $130 for 30lb was steep. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To searc

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
HFO-1234yf sounds like its not a done deal yet. Mercedes made news by rejecting it over safety concerns. They even built cars designed for it, but charged them with R134a instead. There is an excellent article about the current state of the refrigerant debate in the March issue of StarTuned. It

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Go ahead. I can't stand Manilow. Barely Maninov? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Go ahead. I can't stand Manilow. On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Good thing I have about 180lb stockpiled > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 25, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Alex Chamberlain > wrote: > > > On Jun 25, 2013 2:42 PM, "Rich Thomas" < > richthomas79td...@constructi

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Good thing I have about 180lb stockpiled Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Jun 25, 2013 2:42 PM, "Rich Thomas" > wrote: >> >> Get ready for refrigerant prices to >> "necessarily skyrocket" -- Barry >> announced today he is going after >> stuff that

Re: [MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jun 25, 2013 2:42 PM, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > > Get ready for refrigerant prices to > "necessarily skyrocket" -- Barry > announced today he is going after > stuff that goes into the air, which > means everything that goes into the > air is going up up up in cost. Prices > on 134 and such probab

[MBZ] Barry blows hot air, AC blows fire hot

2013-06-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Get ready for refrigerant prices to "necessarily skyrocket" -- Barry announced today he is going after stuff that goes into the air, which means everything that goes into the air is going up up up in cost. Prices on 134 and such probably started going up today. Sigh... Not trying to start a