Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-22 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
My 15k was at least half highway driving - that probably contributed to the good analysis results. Oil analysis is valuable for identifying developing problems by detecting excessive wear early. You hope not to find anything, but if you do, you can take steps to repair before you get stranded

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-22 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I think the synthetic stuff resists coking better if it leaks past the turbine seals. I also think it keeps working to higher temps if the engine overheats. And after running it for 100k in the 617a, I am convinced the timing chains wear less with synthetic. Something about better shear

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-18 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
The W220 had a 10k swap window. I think that is the extent of synth. Gump was good for 6k. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen > On May 16, 2018, at 5:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > So here we go

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
From comparing results from tests between the 2 it looks like Delvac 1300 is a little better, TBN is a little higher for example but I am not sure what the difference in numbers translates to how much better it is.  All I know is the HK oil is literally half the price.  They also have a

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Yep, Warren and Citgo. Warren is supposed to make the Supertech that's pretty good. I looked around a bit and it doesn't seem like there's anything wrong with the Citgo either. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
interesting. That would probably be something to know.  From what I have read some places say they think its made by Warren and others say Citgo. On 5/18/2018 6:37 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: I think there's old Harvest King by one manufacturer and new Harvest King by somebody else.

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I think there's old Harvest King by one manufacturer and new Harvest King by somebody else. I forget which one's supposed to be good. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The local farm store had this oil on sale for $10 for 2 gallon jugs. I bought a couple of cases of it to use in the 92 SD that leaks/burns oil, but after researching in it, maybe this oil is decent oil which compares to Delvac 1300 or Delo.

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-18 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
I had much goodness happen using M1 in the OM615. Much quieter running, smoother, faster. Depends on the need, but I needed to run a few gallons and miles before I could tell there was a real change. I could have swapped back to dino, but all the cars were running M1 by then, so simple

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
IIRC poor Rich can't get the darn car to run, so all this debate about the type of oil is kinda off point. He needs to get it up and running FIRST before worrying about M1 vs. Delvac. My recommendation would be to check the fuel tank filter (screen) if he has not already done so. On Thu, May

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-17 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
That’s a function of the detergents, I believe. Using that logic, wouldn’t it make sense to have fresher oil in the engine to get the most benefit from the additives? I’ve only had one car in my life that showed a noticeable difference from running synthetic oil in it, and I’m not totally

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So what about the supposed benefit of cleaning out the engine and keeping it clean, and supposedly quieting down lifters? Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-17 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of Delo 400 LE for $26.00, which makes it about $2.60/quart, or half the price of Mobil1. I’m not sure where you’re buying filters for $8.00, I’m paying around $10.00 for Mann or Hengst. So a five quart oil change is actually under

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Can I see the breakdown of costs please? I don't believe I pay $70 for a change with M1. $30/gallon on sale, $8 for a filter... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Good quality diesel oil like Delo

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You have to get the oil tested to be sure but I see no reason why not. I change at 10,000 on both the Golf and Jetta as analysis shows both happy in that and it's about one change a year. When I was driving a lot more it was twice a year. I took a 190D up to 12,000 with no problem from the

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
How long ago was that? Reason I ask is because at some point m1 changed from group 4 to group 3 base oil Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2018, at 8:10 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > I agree with Curt. When Larry T was doing oil analysis I had my M1 tested

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I know. I could do worse. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On May 16, 2018 9:13 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2018 21:10:44 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I agree with Curt. When Larry T was doing oil analysis I had

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 16 May 2018 21:10:44 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > I agree with Curt. When Larry T was doing oil analysis I had my M1 > tested in the 602 @ 12k miles & it had 75% soot capacity left. I am a > believer but won't start an oel thread. Too late; you already

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I agree with Curt. When Larry T was doing oil analysis I had my M1 tested in the 602 @ 12k miles & it had 75% soot capacity left. I am a believer but won't start an oel thread. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD M1 15w 50 2005 E320 M1 0w 30 Wickford RI On May 16, 2018 8:05 PM, "Curt Raymond via

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 LE is cheap. I can do a complete change with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for under $35 every 5000 miles and not have concerns. If I used Mobil1 it would be near twice the cost. Since Mobil1 is a group 3 base stock it’s not that much better than

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So here we go again. My line of thinking has been that if you go synthetic over Dino, can you double the internal? For example earlier engines like 617 and 603 have a factory 5k interval. Could you go 10k on those with synthetic? Later engines such as 606 have a 7500 mile interval, so could

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Same here, I usually went 12,000 miles, and analysis indicated that 15,000 was easily possible. Soot was the most significant level, but was still good in both OM602 and OM603 engines. Even with the oil sucker, I don't like changing oil . . . On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I'll give you $500 and make all your troubles go away... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 16, 2018 7:04:34 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >Well I put a new fuel filter on and it started but was struggling to >run before now the damn

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I mean I guess if you really like changing the oil... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Well I put a new fuel filter on and it started but was struggling to run before now the damn thing won’t start at all. I filled the filter with fuel as when I put the new one on it wouldn’t start and the new filter did not have any fuel in it when I took it off again. I’m wondering if the fuel

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You will need to use synthetic if you are going to go by the FSS for oil changes Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel. I'm > guessing cheepcheep

Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1 in the diesel. Delvac or Delo 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate and far less expensive. -D > On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel

[MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

2018-05-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for that. I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and