I think it's a 5 year sentence in the UK. Either that or they're
considering changing it to 5.
Zedic
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Obviously criminals aren't gonna worry about gun laws unless those gun
laws are tough tough, like 10 years in the big house for carrying an
illegal weapon.
At the moment the big thing here is bikers and their hangers on shooting
each other for control of the drug trade. Government is bumbling an
The gun laws are extremely effective then! (That is sarcasm if you
don't notice) I don't think he stated the cause of crime increase was
the new gun laws, he pointed out that crime increased after new gun laws
were implemented, the point of which were apparently were to decrease
(gun-related)
The Brits never had a big gun culture, obviously the baddies had
shooters but didn't really use em.
I don't know where you got the info that the crime rate went up because
of disarming but the reason the crime rate is going up is due to drugs,
with Carribean and, more so now, Eastern European cr
Long guns, not handguns, IIRC, however never a good idea to accept The Big
One's statistical assertions at face value.
Mac
on 5/8/08 8:25, Jeff Zedic at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Actually, didn't Bowling for Columbine say that Canada had more guns
> per capita, or a similar amount, than the US?
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>
Actually, didn't Bowling for Columbine say that Canada had more guns
per capita, or a similar amount, than the US?
The Brits have guns too. Unfortunately their standard issue wep in
Afghanistan/Iraq tends to jam in the heat and doesn't like dust...go
figure.
Zedic
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> I believe the US tried three times to invade and were beaten back each
> time, luckily for us.
>
> Mind you, we had a coalition of Brits, Canucks and natives and the
> advantage of height.
And back then, Brits and Canucks had guns.
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There's no way that would ever happen. It would be a bloodbath and you
would be defeated just like in 1812! hehe
You ever want to see Canadians get really riled up, then tell them
that the US will invade. We go from meek and mild to menacing in a
picosecond!
I believe the US tried three times to
one battle short of being the 14th colony!
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on 5/7/08 17:56, Jeff Zedic at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yes, like most French peoples, they're pretty left...one of the things
> I like about them!
They are left on most social policy except for language and immigration.
Separatism (and in its milder form, what is generally called Quebec
natio
Yes, like most French peoples, they're pretty left...one of the things
I like about them!
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The Quebec secessionists are right-wing? I thought they were the ones
who found the rest of Canada too far right for their tastes.
Mitch.
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Right now it seems as though they're hibernating againmust be
building up more foam.
We tried to get rid of the centuries ago when we forced the Acadians
out of here. They went to Loisiana and became the cajuns. I guess we
thought we'd share the pain.
Zedic
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They seem to have been rather quiet of late so who knows what lurks below the
surface.
Randy
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Not to stir things up, but in the interest of being
better informed, what's the latest with those wacky
pseudo-Frenchmen?
Having traveled extensively in Quebec, I seemed to
find a wide range of attitudes towards the whole
thing, from hard-core right-wing rabid secessionists,
to those who don't rea
We can Hope that might Change! Or Change what we Hope for?
I am so confused.
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Redghost wrote:
> As long as they are well armed, have body armour and AWAC, this is a
> great way to expose our youth to the wide world. Get to know all
> sorts of people and see they are just as screwy as th
As long as they are well armed, have body armour and AWAC, this is a
great way to expose our youth to the wide world. Get to know all
sorts of people and see they are just as screwy as the folks back
home. Then you get home and wonder just how close is the good old
USA to going bonkers li
You would not want to get me started on that subject.
Randy
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Yeah, and then
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> green
>
>
> The best rememdy to counteract racist tende
No no, especially true in that case! America is reaping great oil dividends
from Mr. Bush's "War for Oil", aren't we?
Max
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:06:26 -0500
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trying to be green
Hear hear!
There is as much misinformation on biofuels as there is actual information.
I'm glad to see somebody else is actually paying attention, the media surely
are not.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:36:46 -0700
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us of
segregating them.
Randy
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The best rememdy to counteract
Hear hear!
There is as much misinformation on biofuels as there is actual information.
I'm glad to see somebody else is actually paying attention, the media surely
are not.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:36:46 -0700
From: Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue
except when the young Americans all dress alike and carry weapons!
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:30 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> IMO, the experience of sending young Americans overseas yields
> more dividends to the USA than to the host countries.
>
>
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The best rememdy to counteract racist tendencies is to actually get to know
people well who are different. This was the biggest benefit I acquired from
being a Peace Corps volunteer. My contact with dark-skinned people on a
daily basis illustrated to me how prejudiced I was without realizing it.
Sensitive people, delete this message now!!
With that said, my grandmother used to call black people "darkies"
My grandfather used to call them "spooks"
No, they were not raciest, that was just how things were in their day.
They didnt mean anything by it. Now days, they would get shot or
somet
Yeah, I really hate all the unnaturally born folks. they freak me out.
clay
On 7 May 2008, at 08:54, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
> Rich Thomas wrote:
>>
>> You can't say "colored" you have to say "people of color."
>
> My grandmother learned that "negro" was politically incorrect and
> "colored" was
Rich Thomas wrote:
>
> You can't say "colored" you have to say "people of color."
My grandmother learned that "negro" was politically incorrect and
"colored" was the PC euphemism of the day. By the time she finally
adjusted from "colored" to "black", the PC crowd had moved on to
"African-Americ
You can't say "colored" you have to say "people of color." I'm not sure
what the difference is, but the former is racist and the latter is PC.
Word.
--R
Redghost wrote:
> Danny is pretty fed up with the idiots running the schools here as
> well. Due to labor unions a large ($12.6 million)
You are right Lee. Around my neighborhood, we have small lots, so
any spare space will soon be planted with food crops to off set the
huge increase in grocery bills. Local and in season crops.
WE do have some issue with the chickens roaming the streets doing
"weeding" of our farms.
clay
The big issue is not local forests or grasslands being denuded, but
that we are going into the amazon and asian rain forests and planting
soy and palm oil crops. Well, not we, but the locals in those areas
are using their land in a manner best suited to increasing their
economies.
This t
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Danny is pretty fed up with the idiots running the schools here as
well. Due to labor unions a large ($12.6 million) grant was
rescinded that would have paid for extra science and math teaching.
The teacher union thought it smacked of "merit" pay, since the
teachers who produced students
> I'm on the wet side
> where the grass gets naturally watered from September through May but
> has to fend for itself the rest of the time. It turns brown, but
> comes back from dormancy just fine.
And my first year with a lawn here I treated it like we
did on the wet side. Figured it would com
On Mon, 5 May 2008 13:04:38 -0400 "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a.. Iceplant (Lampranthus):This large group of low-growing succulents
> has bright flowers. Most of these drought-tolerant plants are not
> very hardy and are best adapted to mild-winter climates.
These were used quit
Rich Thomas wrote:
> Moss Makes a Lush, No-Care Lawn
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/garden/01moss.html
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This was in the NYTimes the other day, I forgot to save a link but you
can find it.
--R
May 1, 2008
In the Garden
Moss Makes a Lush, No-Care Lawn
By JANCEE DUNN
Solebury, Pa.
DAVID BENNER hasn't watered his lawn since the Kennedy administration.
He hasn't mowed it, either. And it's doing
: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> Water? You water yours?
>> Mine gets watered (and you can tell) where I drag the hose out to water
the garden...
>> If I get around to installing drip irrigation this yea
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> Water? You water yours?
>> Mine gets watered (and you can tell) where I drag the hose out to water the
>> garden...
>> If I get around to installing drip irrigation this year even that will stop.
>
> Ditto. Jim and I are both in the Pa
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Water? You water yours?
> Mine gets watered (and you can tell) where I drag the hose out to water the
> garden...
> If I get around to installing drip irrigation this year even that will stop.
Ditto. Jim and I are bot
Mitch Haley wrote:
> Can't remember if some players were supposed to stand near the target
> area and then throw them back in the next round, or was everybody
> supposed to stand behind the thrower at all times?
I was watching some old (50's & 60's) home movies with my Mom the other
night... yo
LWB250 wrote:
>
> I haven't seen Jarts in years. I figured the potential for product
> liability ran then out of business years ago.
I think CPSC banned them. There were non-penetrating substitutes for
a while, but I haven't seen those in years either. I'll have to dig
mine out (Jarts) and read
t hurt".
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At the pre-schoo
> I'm pretty crusty when it comes to lawns, why do I want to pay big
> money to grow grass?
No big money for us, we're on a well. The water is nearly free.
Couple of gallons of gasoline a year for the mower.
-- Jim
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Tom Hargrave wrote:
> Then there's the long term impact of compact florescent bulbs. Every one
> contains a bit of mercury. I don't know about you but I throw mine out when
> they burn out and I bet that 99% of the county does the same. So, do mercury
> tainted landfills appeal to you?
Metal-halid
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> Because a grass lawn is a monoculture
> Because a grass lawn is a monoculture with the majority of ecological
> niches vacant, it requires a great deal of human effort (and
> petrochemicals) to maintain.
You haven't been to our house! We don't do anything but water
and mow. Once it gets hot, we can mostly dispense with the
latter.
food worries in this country (read some of
survivalblog.com) are manufactured (that stupid rice ration comes to mind) to
help agribusiness come out better in the farm bill...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 07:47:58 -0400
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ist
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At the pre-school playground.
--R
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> Where would we play Jarts?
>
> Pete
>
>
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>
>>
At the pre-school playground.
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> Where would we play Jarts?
>
> Pete
>
>
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>
>> Mitch Haley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting
Where would we play Jarts?
Pete
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> Mitch Haley wrote:
>
> >
> > When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
> > they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these people have any idea how
Mitch Haley wrote:
>
> When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
> they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these people have any idea how
> much cropland the government is currently paying farmers to not grow
> crops on? Or is that what they mean by "grasslands"?
>
>
Grass
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I think they are stretching things quite a bit:
"The reason is that it take
I think they are stretching things quite a bit:
"The reason is that it takes land to grow fuel. That inevitably leads to the
destruction of forests and grasslands, the studies say."
When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these peo
row away society', but it does need to
be preached loud and long.
BillR
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Future looks good concerning biodiesel from algae though. Keep your eyes,
ears and mind open.:)
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http://seattletimes.nwsourc
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2004391337_danny04.html
Danny Westneat
Seattle Times staff columnist
I thought I was going green. Instead, I was committing a crime against
humanity.
Recently our family car was totaled in a wreck (no one was hurt). So I
figured: Here's a chan
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