Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-12 Thread Curt Raymond
An Italian Tuneup" Italian Tune up is a lifestyle thing. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:00:34 -0700 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale Message-ID: <20120111210034.b3de7b35.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Craig
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:24:09 -0500 andrew strasfogel wrote: > In that case, how do you distinguish "tired" from "normal"? The > pre-turbo diesels were pretty sluggish in the best of times. I fired off the questions to my brother and got the following response: > Craig: > > In responding to y

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
they were most likely really '82 On 1/11/2012 4:52 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: yeah, that's what i'd read also, but have seen '81 CDs that were both turbo and N/A... why i had to ask. cheers! e On 11/Jan/12 13:21, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 81 wagons could be turbo or not, the D and CD did n

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread ernest breakfield
yeah, that's what i'd read also, but have seen '81 CDs that were both turbo and N/A... why i had to ask. cheers! e On 11/Jan/12 13:21, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 81 wagons could be turbo or not, the D and CD did not get turbo till 82 On 1/10/2012 10:09 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 11, 2012 1:21 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > None at all [dealers] would be > interested in putting that on their lot. > Maybe not in Okieland, but on the West Coast all kinds of interesting old European and Japanese cars that have evaded the tinworm show up on even the crummiest botto

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Curt Raymond
IIRC the 240D is in the 20 second range. I think I read once that an early VW bus (split window say) was 0-60 in like 70 seconds... -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:36:13 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
81 wagons could be turbo or not, the D and CD did not get turbo till 82 On 1/10/2012 10:09 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 ernest breakfield wrote: is it Turbo, or N/A? (i've seen '81s that were either,...) Naturally aspirated. Craig __

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
None at all would be interested in putting that on their lot. On 1/10/2012 9:03 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Jim Cathey writes: It is also possible that dealer sales may have some state laws that come into effect, but the most likely thing is that he's trying to get a retail sale price and doesn't

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Max
>andrew strasfogel wrote: > >>Less than 1 minute = not tired? >> Less than 19.2 seconds = not tired for a 123.150. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Max
andrew strasfogel wrote: >Less than 1 minute = not tired? > Technical Data book for passenger cars, April 1985 edition, has the answer; my copy is not available at the moment but if you'd like I can check later this evening. Come to think of it, maybe that site that Hendrik posted yesterday

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread OK Don
The cure is usually an Italian tune-up. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:36 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > Less than 1 minute = not tired? > > On 1/11/12, Max wrote: > >>On 11/01/2012 10:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > >>> In that case, how do you distinguish "tired" from "normal"? The > >>> pre-tu

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
Less than 1 minute = not tired? On 1/11/12, Max wrote: >>On 11/01/2012 10:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: >>> In that case, how do you distinguish "tired" from "normal"? The >>> pre-turbo diesels were pretty sluggish in the best of times. >>> >>> > > Simple, use the diagnostic tool that Dr MB us

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Max
>On 11/01/2012 10:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: >> In that case, how do you distinguish "tired" from "normal"? The >> pre-turbo diesels were pretty sluggish in the best of times. >> >> Simple, use the diagnostic tool that Dr MB used: time required for 0 to 62 mph. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 11/01/2012 10:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: In that case, how do you distinguish "tired" from "normal"? The pre-turbo diesels were pretty sluggish in the best of times. May depend on how it has been driven in the recent past as well. My 115 300D was a real dog when I got it. My first, s

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
In that case, how do you distinguish "tired" from "normal"? The pre-turbo diesels were pretty sluggish in the best of times. On 1/10/12, ernest breakfield wrote: > thanks! > > > cheers! > e > > On 10/Jan/12 20:09, Craig wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 ernest breakfield >> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-10 Thread ernest breakfield
thanks! cheers! e On 10/Jan/12 20:09, Craig wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 ernest breakfield wrote: is it Turbo, or N/A? (i've seen '81s that were either,...) Naturally aspirated. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-10 Thread Craig
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 ernest breakfield wrote: > is it Turbo, or N/A? (i've seen '81s that were either,...) Naturally aspirated. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-10 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey writes: > It is also possible that dealer sales may have some state laws > that come into effect, but the most likely thing is that he's > trying to get a retail sale price and doesn't want to be bothered > by dealers trying to get him down to a wholesale price. How many dealers would

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-10 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/01/2012 9:19 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 ernest breakfield wrote: Miles? Colors? is it Turbo, or N/A? (i've seen '81s that were either,...) My brother sent the copy he will be using in a Craig's List ad: Silver with black interior 1981 300CD with approximately

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-10 Thread Randy Bennell
On 10/01/2012 8:31 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: What's with the no dealers crap? If someone has the cash to buy it who cares if they are a dealer? I have an 85 300d here that the previous owner thinks they can tell me what they want done with the car. Once it's sold, it's sold. If a dealer, or

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-10 Thread Michael Canfield
What's with the no dealers crap? If someone has the cash to buy it who cares if they are a dealer? I have an 85 300d here that the previous owner thinks they can tell me what they want done with the car. Once it's sold, it's sold. If a dealer, or anyone else for that matter, wants to buy it, f

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-09 Thread Jim Cathey
How do you know the engine is "tired"? Seems like very low miles for this to occur... The $400 Chicken Wagon's motor was tired/shot. After we fixed the clog in the breather hose it got remarkably un-tired/un-shot. We're still driving it, it runs great, and it's at about 305kmi. -- Jim __

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's also priced high for a tired motor car Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:30 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > How do you know the engine is "tired"? Seems like very low miles for this > to occur... > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Craig wrote: > >> On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
How do you know the engine is "tired"? Seems like very low miles for this to occur... On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Craig wrote: > On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 ernest breakfield > wrote: > > > Miles? > > Colors? > > is it Turbo, or N/A? (i've seen '81s that were either,...) > > My br

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-09 Thread Craig
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 ernest breakfield wrote: > Miles? > Colors? > is it Turbo, or N/A? (i've seen '81s that were either,...) My brother sent the copy he will be using in a Craig's List ad: Silver with black interior 1981 300CD with approximately 180K (odometer quit working about

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-09 Thread ernest breakfield
Miles? Colors? is it Turbo, or N/A? (i've seen '81s that were either,...) most importantly, does it get 45MPG and have A/C that BLOWS ICE COLD?;-) cheers! On 08/Jan/12 21:20, Craig wrote: > From my brother in Seattle. Craig Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:31:16 -08

[MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-08 Thread Craig
>From my brother in Seattle. Craig Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:31:16 -0800 Subject: Our old Benz is for sale Since you are on the MB email list per your Christmas letter, would you know of anyone who might want to purchase our old 1981 MB 300CD? Our old Benz is up for sal