Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math Last year in Vegas I was walking through the Belaggio with some friends and happened by a roulette table. I'd never played roulette before and knew one of my friends was into different table games so asked him to help me. If I remember correctly I ended up putting $

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Curt Raymond
kay. -Curt Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:38:52 + From: "Jeff Zedic" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Actually your best odds are with the table and card games. If you go t

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
, 2009 8:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math "Luther" said: > A trick to always winning on the slot machines is to watch and find the > person that plays for 30min-1hr or more and doesn't win. When they > finally get frustrated

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Allan Streib
"Luther" said: > A trick to always winning on the slot machines is to watch and find the > person that plays for 30min-1hr or more and doesn't win. When they > finally get frustrated and leave, sit in their seat and play. It will > probably hit something for you fairly quickly. The casinos

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Tom Hargrave wrote: Actually, the house has a 1/2 percent advantage over you and that's assuming you are an absolute perfect player, but none of us are. Card counting used to work because the actual hand to hand advantage swings back and for with the percentage of face cards (10 - A) left in the

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Rich Thomas
Get the book Bringing Down the House about a bunch of MIT folks who turned that activity into a very lucrative business, and caused major changes in the "gaming" industry. It's a fun read. --R Tom Hargrave wrote: Actually, the house has a 1/2 percent advantage over you and that's assuming yo

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Donald Snook
Zedic wrote: " Your best odds of a win?.roulette" If you bet black or red, then roulette is not that bad, but it is still less than 50-50% because there is the zero/double zero. The best odds in the house, i.e. closest to 50% is craps and only on the pass/come line and it is still less tha

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
-Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math Jeff Zedic wrote: > Your best odds of a win?.roulet

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Jeff Zedic wrote: Your best odds of a win?.roulette How many green numbers are on the wheels over there, one or two? There are still a few casinos in the USA that run a slightly positive expected value game of blackjack, assuming you play perfect basic strategy and can count. Make a mis

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Tom Hargrave wrote: I've heard that theory and believe that some people made a lot of money selling books that stated the same thing along with "how to beat Black Jack", etc, etc. Both my high school math teachers fancied themselves gamblers to a certain extent. My geometry teacher liked black

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-13 Thread Jeff Zedic
Actually your best odds are with the table and card games. If you go to the PBS website you may still be able to watch a documentary on the slot machine industry. Old mechanical slots were much different than the electronic ones of today. Today's machines use operant conditioning to mess with you

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math A trick to always winning on the slot machines is to watch and find the person that plays for 30min-1hr or more and doesn't win. When they

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-12 Thread Luther
A trick to always winning on the slot machines is to watch and find the person that plays for 30min-1hr or more and doesn't win. When they finally get frustrated and leave, sit in their seat and play. It will probably hit something for you fairly quickly. Luther Donald Snook wrote: Tom Har

Re: [MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-12 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't play slots, but i understand that many of them do offer very high percentage payouts and if played optimally leave the house with a very minimal advantage over the player. i like poker myself. guess that's why the casino offers a lot of variety so that anyone who wants to gamble to find s

[MBZ] Gambling was Re: math

2009-01-12 Thread Donald Snook
Tom Hargrave: "Yep, with slots and table games you might as well go and deposit your money directly in their bank." I have never (currently knocking wood) left a casino not having won something and I play slots. Now, I am not talking about winning a lot. The worst I ever did was winning only