Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles - old cars

2007-10-29 Thread Jim Cathey
> I wonder how many miles of driving an older car as opposed > to a new car would balance out the carbon equation? As a first-order approximation, 'buy' fuel with the sticker price. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: h

Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles - old cars

2007-10-29 Thread Hendrik & Fay
This would depend on the factory making the car. Peter Merle wrote: > I wonder how much pollution is generated in making new cars - I wonder > how many miles of driving an older car as opposed to a new car would > balance out the carbon equation ( never mind the epollution of disposing > the old c

Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles - old cars

2007-10-28 Thread Peter Merle
I wonder how much pollution is generated in making new cars - I wonder how many miles of driving an older car as opposed to a new car would balance out the carbon equation ( never mind the epollution of disposing the old car ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Unfortunately all the scientist are busy finding water on Mars to look into climate change at this point in time, so who knows what is really going on. What we do know is that the climate changes every now and then from hot to cold all by itself, whether we triggered/contributed it we don't kno

Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
Huh? Human contribution to global warning is insignificant? I must have missed the memo. On 10/28/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And it's amazing that as more scientifc information comes in indicating > that the human contribution to global warming is insignificant -- LT

Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:43:37 +1030 Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Political suicide it is called, the people in favour of a speed limit > probably already vote left and you scratch the surface of most Germans > you'll find a rev head wanting to go fast in a fancy car. > It is one thi

Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Political suicide it is called, the people in favour of a speed limit probably already vote left and you scratch the surface of most Germans you'll find a rev head wanting to go fast in a fancy car. It is one thing to make people aware that going fast pumps out more emissions but another to make

Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: > However a number of studies have shown that speed limits could > effectively slash polluting emissions. Environmental groups have said a > speed limit would cut vehicle CO2 output by 5 percent overnight and 15 > percent long-term once more fuel-efficient cars were used. The hi

[MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Algore, the gift that keeps on giving... --R http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2849776,00.html Earlier, in an unexpected move, the SPD voted in favor of introducing a top speed of 130 kph (80 mph) on Germany's famed speed limit-free Autobahns or motorways in a bid to cut the country's