Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-16 Thread Curt Raymond
s 28mpg over 40-50,000 miles, peak was 31 or 32 but I think I only hit that once. -Curt Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:10:03 -0700 From: Tyler Subject: Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <52a630fa-a147-4dc9-b39b-3180f0a60...@usermail.com> Content-Type: t

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: I'd expect the 38-42 reported by local users. Even my brother's old 76 300D (NA engine) gets 38. Are you using gallons with more than 4 litres in them? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Tyler
Most people think they get better fuel economy than they do, because they calculate it incorrectly. IMO, 30mpg is very good economy, and probably as good or better a real long term average than any diesel Benz owners get except for those with manual 190Ds. I am pretty sure there's nothing w

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Peter Frederick
You cannot replace just the bushings -- they are vulcanized to the center sleeve, which is in turn trapped by the bolt. The flexing of the rubber is part of the spring system, that's why they ride so well, and also why they fail the way they do. Get them all done and put a new bushing in t

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Peter Frederick
I've heard that car (or one like it) gets 48 mpg!! ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "tyler" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT I'm going to drive the 190DT from LA t

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Frederick W Moir
Tyler. Rusty has(had) a deal on the links for an 124/201 for reasonable $'s. Give him a call 800 741 5252, he knows where you live! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel Nut and a great fan of Buymbparts! At 10:11 PM 4/14/2009, you wrote: I already replaced the pulling rods on each side, which were metal on

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread OK Don
The wandering rearend could help keep him alert on that long straight road On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I'm going to drive the 190DT from LA to Portland (and possibly Seattle) >> and back all in a weekend to attend a funeral. It should be quite a bit >> cheaper than

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Tyler
I already replaced the pulling rods on each side, which were metal on metal (no rubber left). This made a big difference, but I think they're almost all in need of replacement. It gets really expensive, since the dealer wants to sell the whole links rather than just the rubber bushings! A

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Tyler wrote: With the proper gear ratios, a 190DT (122hp/2800lb=0.044hp/lb) should keep up with a horizon 2.2 (84hp/2080lb=0.040hp/lb). Much of the mpg gain for the stick shift is probably from getting rid of the torque converter. I don't know where you get 84 hp for a 2.2L Mopar, that soun

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm going to drive the 190DT from LA to Portland (and possibly Seattle) and back all in a weekend to attend a funeral. It should be quite a bit cheaper than flying, especially if I can pick someone up to help pay for diesel ($2.30/gal*2000mi/30mpg=$153, flying is $400). I hope she does well, si

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Tyler
We were just talking about this on another list, and several engineers mentioned that diesel engines have a fairly flat efficiency curve across the power band. This suggests (to me) that the economy increase people get from always running low rpms is probably due to accelerating slower and

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Mitch Haley
tyler wrote: Supposedly it actually will if you swap in a manual and drive 50mph. There was a guy on the web site formerly known as Mercedesshop who put a 5sp in a 190DT. Was a bit sluggish in first with the gasser tranny and the 2.65 final drive, but it cruised nicely at 70-80mph, returning

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread tyler
I think the fuelly.com site is an interesting place to dispel rumors on MBZ fuel economy. For example, I often see the venerable W123 300TD being advertised with something like "it's a diesel so it gets 50+mpg, and the fuel is free if you run veggie" There are two 300TDs on fuelly, one with

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread Ralph W
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:03 PM, tyler wrote: > I'm going to drive the 190DT from LA to Portland (and possibly Seattle) and > back all in a weekend to attend a funeral. It should be quite a bit cheaper > than flying, especially if I can pick someone up to help pay for diesel > ($2.30/gal*2000mi/3

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread tyler
il 14, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT I'm going to drive the 190DT from LA to Portland (and possibly Seattle) and back all in a weekend to attend a funeral. It should be quite a bit cheaper than flying, especially if I can pick someone up to help pay for diesel ($2.30

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread tyler
- Original Message - From: "tyler" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT I'm going to drive the 190DT from LA to Portland (and possibly Seattle) and back all in a weekend to attend a funeral. It

Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread WILTON
But I've heard that car (or one like it) gets 48 mpg!! ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "tyler" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT I'm going to drive the 190DT

[MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT

2009-04-14 Thread tyler
I'm going to drive the 190DT from LA to Portland (and possibly Seattle) and back all in a weekend to attend a funeral. It should be quite a bit cheaper than flying, especially if I can pick someone up to help pay for diesel ($2.30/gal*2000mi/30mpg=$153, flying is $400). I hope she does well, si