Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-08 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > MAO wrote: > > > > I was told that TOR is seen by agencies. i.e. not secure. > Dan wrote: > > The exploit got exposed and the Tor folks are buttoning > things up. And that is open-source software working as it should. All public software should be that transparent. __

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:29:52 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > What really sickens me is that none of the lapdog media even attempt to > call him out on such mistakes or question the assumptions behind his > assertions, they just all nod along, get their soundbite and announce > "the news"

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Word is that Columbia U. or one of the other research universities was given some money and information by a three letter government agency to compromise Tor, or at least some of the relays. The exploit got exposed and the Tor folks are buttoning things up. Dan > On Dec 8, 2015, at 1:26 PM, M

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: > I use Tor. Remember, I do cyber security for a living. I was told that TOR is seen by agencies. i.e. not secure. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I use Tor. Remember, I do cyber security for a living. Dan “Five eyes" > On Dec 7, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > > We don't need protections. We have liberty. Use that liberty to > invent / innovate a means away from snooping eyes. We have done it > before and

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Apparently someone called the POS a "total (part of female genitalia) on some TV show. LOL http://gawker.com/someone-called-obama-a-pussy-on-live-tv-today-guess-whi-1746657198 The PC speak is starting to crack. Col. Peters speaks for most of the USA. That is a good sign. NO irreverance m

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: > The level of intrusion that certain government agencies have taken on without > our knowledge greatly troubles me, and I consider it a direct compromise of > my Constitutional rights. We need transparency, or we have no protections > from such activities or those behind them. > We

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah. Like that’s going to work. The really worst possible outcome is that this get legislated. I can see that being a huge battle of the lobbyists, with companies like Apple that have massive war chests/cash fighting to the bitter end. You want to give up the keys to your house? Or leave a

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Hilz is out in Collyfawnya trying to get Apple to give up their keys, "enlisting Silicon Valley in the overseas contingency operations against ISIL." --R On 12/7/15 5:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: It’s well known that nearly all the organized “bad guys” have either been using encrypt

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s well known that nearly all the organized “bad guys” have either been using encrypted communications or have gone offline even before 9/11. Heck, they even know when some of our satellites are overhead, and act accordingly. The idea that allowing a back door for encryption will allow LEAs

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Dan, I'm with you mostly on that, I believe citizens have the right of privacy and should be able to communicate without anyone listening if so desired. I firmly believe that good 'ol fashioned HUMINT (by which I mean actually getting out from behind the desk / computer and talking to real people

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm just stunned by the constant rhetoric about encryption, and how if we don't create back doors in everything for Johnny Law to track down terrorists we'll be overrun. That and how the Snowden stuff has made all these groups suddenly aware of how they're being watched. Total BS, all of it. D

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
What really sickens me is that none of the lapdog media even attempt to call him out on such mistakes or question the assumptions behind his assertions, they just all nod along, get their soundbite and announce "the news" and expect the good little sheeple to just believe it and go along with the a

Re: [MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I was jarred listening to the speech last night many times. What really got me was this line: <> She came on a K-1 class fiancée visa, not the visa waiver program. Citizens of Pakistan are not eligible for the visa waiver program. Who writes this stuff? Oh wait...he is a better speech writer

[MBZ] OT: POTUS Ignorance

2015-12-07 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I was jarred listening to the speech last night many times. What really got me was this line: <> She came on a K-1 class fiancée visa, not the visa waiver program. Citizens of Pakistan are not eligible for the visa waiver program. Who writes this stuff? Oh wait...he is a better speech write