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Craig wrote: > When we were living off the grid south of Calhan, Colorado, in the > mid-80s (and before Kill-a-Watt meters)... Yep - the same time I was also in El Paso County but about 20 miles south at Drennan, south of Ellicott, just west of Ellicott Hwy. Drennan is the best place we ever lived

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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 18:54:26 -0600 Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: > Rick wrote: > > Ancient freezer? - yes > > Ancient fridge? - no > > Undersized A/C unit? - don't use it > > Electric heat? - gas boiler > > Electric hot water? - yes, ancient turned off 22 hours each day > > Ancient TV that is a

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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 13:18:32 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > My P4400 gives Hz, which is invaluable for adjusting the governor on > generators. When we were living off the grid south of Calhan, Colorado, in the mid-80s (and before Kill-a-Watt meters), I built a frequency meter in an

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Rick wrote: > Ancient freezer? - yes > Ancient fridge? - no > Undersized A/C unit? - don't use it > Electric heat? - gas boiler > Electric hot water? - yes, ancient turned off 22 hours each day > Ancient TV that is always on? - no tv > Too many "vampire" electronics? - computers, dehumidifier > (ch

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Oops, I'm pretty sure mine does too. Forgot that part... -Curt From: Mitch Haley To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES > On November 2, 2015 at 12:45

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> On November 2, 2015 at 12:45 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Probably not for the average user. Mine gives, volts, amps, watts, power > factor and it'll track those over time... > -Curt My P4400 gives Hz, which is invaluable for adjusting the governor on generators. Mitch. __

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Probably not for the average user. Mine gives, volts, amps, watts, power factor and it'll track those over time... -Curt From: Randy Bennell To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLIN

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On 30/10/2015 6:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You need a Kill-a-watt meter which will tell you the draw of each device. Probably you've got some phantom loads that are getting you, those would be devices that are on even when they're off. Computers, wall-wart power supplies, televisi

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I just asked my pool tech. He estimates $100- 150/month to run the pump 8-12 hours daily. That would account for the disappointingly modest reduction in my power bill this past month, during which the CAC was shut off but the pump was still running. On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Jim Cathey w

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I was interested in a ballpark for power consumption. Well, 1HP is 750W. But somebody has to do the guessing as to the motor's rating and likely load. A very dirty guess would be 5kWH per day. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives ht

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I was interested in a ballpark for power consumption. On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > small nuclear power plant should be effective. > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Merc

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small nuclear power plant should be effective. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What about a pool pump for a 22,000 gallon pool running 10 hrs. daily? > > ___ http

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What about a pool pump for a 22,000 gallon pool running 10 hrs. daily? On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On November 2, 2015 at 12:50 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > Ancient freezer? > > Ancient fridge? > > Undersized A/

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> On November 2, 2015 at 12:50 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > Ancient freezer? > Ancient fridge? > Undersized A/C unit? > Electric heat? > Electric hot water?  > Ancient TV that is always on? > Too many "vampire" electronics?  > (chargers, and stuff that stays on "stand-by")‎ You mean

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‎Mao writes: >Been here 19 years and am still >frustrated that never a >bill under $100. Ancient freezer? Ancient fridge? Undersized A/C unit? Electric heat? Electric hot water?  Ancient TV that is always on? Too many "vampire" electronics?  (chargers, and stuff that stays on "stand-by")‎ Rick  S

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You do thousands of improvement to your property, and there is no change in assessed value or taxes? Maybe in a couple states, but I bet in a lot of states you will get taxed for your efforts. It doesn't effect the property taxes. Manfred Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 08:11:46 -0500 From: Cur

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It doesn't effect the property taxes. Manfred Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 08:11:46 -0500 From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> WHat will it do to your property taxes? You have to subtract that out of the "gain." I am sure that goobermnts will find other means of taxingsolar and wind production

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List" Cc: "Mountain Man" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES Curt wrote: Sounds like a very good library. Perhaps not, but that is what I thought they said several years ago. I will check. If you tu

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eat mostly with that again this year. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mountain Man Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES Curt wrote: > Sounds like a very good library.

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Curt wrote: > Sounds like a very good library. Perhaps not, but that is what I thought they said several years ago. I will check. > If you turn off the breakers and everything stops that means there's no > transient loads outside the breakers. Based on the WILTON story, I was thinking maybe the

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Mitch wrote: > Or delusional. Total bill divided by kwh is 11.89 cents / kwh. The add-ons are not what the delusional alternate suppliers want to replace, i.e. all the guys from india or vegas wanting me to switch. The basic supply charge is 5.89 cents and transmission at 1.11 cents. Then the othe

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Your lucky. I pay $0.12/kwh which is why I'm in the process of putting in a 7.5kw solar array. That should under the conditions around here and given the information gathered from their previous installations for over 12 years by the company installing it, give us just a bit more power then we

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> On November 1, 2015 at 7:32 AM MG via Mercedes wrote: > > > Your lucky. Or delusional. Ameren/Illinois Power charges 6.7-6.8 cents for the first 800kwh in the non-cooling season. I doubt whoever serves Gordon is far off from that. But that is ignoring 5.8 cents of supply charges and 0.77

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7;re on or who is pulling power even when switched off... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Mountain Man" Date:Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:04 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES Curt wrote: > You need a Kill-a-watt meter... Okay - I think

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Your lucky. I pay $0.12/kwh which is why I'm in the process of putting in a 7.5kw solar array. That should under the conditions around here and given the information gathered from their previous installations for over 12 years by the company installing it, give us just a bit more power then we

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Mitch wrote: > Mine's about 0.144 including taxes but not including the $7.50 monthly fee. Give the rate not including taxes. I did not include taxes and fees. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubsc

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> On October 31, 2015 at 9:17 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Mao sez: > > >‎I pay $0.059/kwh  > > Well that's a bargain.  Mine's about 0.144 including taxes but not including the $7.50 monthly fee. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To sea

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Mao sez: >‎I pay $0.059/kwh  Well that's a bargain.  Rick  Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/li

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Andrew wrote: > I wish I could turn back my Pepco meter the way an odometer can be > rewound. My electric bills are ridiculous. How much $/kwh are you paying? I pay $0.059/kwh and then other addons. I dislike the various calls to switch to different supplier. Those guys gotta know they are crook

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WILTON wrote: > Never had another problem with it after we replaced all > of the underground system. That can happen easily, I suppose. It's only 20 between the meter and the house. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.ok

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Curt wrote: > You need a Kill-a-watt meter... Okay - I think the library loans that device out. > ...devices that are on even when they're off. Meter stops spinning when all circuits are turned off. That doesn't eliminate the problem but comes close? Thanks. mao

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> On October 31, 2015 at 5:56 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I wish I could turn back my Pepco meter the way an odometer can be > rewound. My electric bills are ridiculous. I know what you mean. Consumers billed me $56 this month. (and I paid my propane company over $400 l

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On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:57:09 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > 'Spose the magnetic field so near the transformer was causing the meter > to run a bit backward when I was using no power? It's entirely possible, since the meter turns by magnetic fields. Craig __

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'Spose the magnetic field so near the transformer was causing the > meter to run a bit backward when I was using no power? > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Mountain Man via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discuss

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scussion List" Cc: "Mountain Man" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES WILTON wrote: Instantly the meter read 18 volts! Did you ever fix this problem? I did not see the solution in your story. My electric ut

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quot; Cc: "Mountain Man" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES WILTON wrote: Instantly the meter read 18 volts! Did you ever fix this problem? I did not see the solution in your story. My electric utility bill i

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From: Mountain Man via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mountain Man Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES WILTON wrote: > Instantly the meter read 18 volts! Did you ever fix this problem? I did not s

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WILTON wrote: > Instantly the meter read 18 volts! Did you ever fix this problem? I did not see the solution in your story. My electric utility bill is always over $120 and I don't like it. All electric off, the meter stops, so there is some info, but no matter what else, electric use is ridiculou

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I like this one, Al Gore probably would not: "There is *one* feature I notice that is generally missing in cargo cult science . … It's a kind of scientific integrity , a principle of scientific thought that

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: My first house was in the Dorchester (dawchestuh, or "dawt") area of > Boston, it had a few leaks on the water line in the basement. Plumber came > and fixed it, explained that a lot of the houses in the neig

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*/“But how can it be like that?…Nobody knows how it can be like that.”/ – Richard Feynman --R * On 10/26/15 11:55 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: As I walked up, he exclaimed, "That just can't be!" I replied, "But it is." ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

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- Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES Waytago! Did r

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hell Marmel" Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:55 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: I designed S-shaped steel plates on each side of the pivoting/mounting points to allow a short balancin

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om> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES Waytago! Did replacing all the underground wiring fix the voltage in the ground? Since that part of the story ended, I assume it did fix the problem. Nobody ever found t

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On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:55 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > I designed S-shaped steel plates on each side of the pivoting/mounting > points to allow a short balancing arm with weights to be installed on the > opposite side of the post from the main part of the barricade itself and > allowed t

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Waytago! Did replacing all the underground wiring fix the voltage in the ground? Since that part of the story ended, I assume it did fix the problem. Nobody ever found the source of the voltage? 'Nother one a'ready. GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS & BARRICADES By Wilton Strickland, Lt Co

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'Nother one a'ready. GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS & BARRICADES By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret) Because I had come directly from B-52 flight operations to civil engineering, I had never seen a civil engineering work control center other than ours. By early 1976, though, I had vi