Re: [MBZ] OT EV airplanes in the near future -- POWER SOURCES

2019-04-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The sun shines continuously a few thousand miles away https://www.wired.com/2014/04/solar-power-satellites-a-visual-introduction/ Full disclosure:  My first grown-up job was working for Peter Glaser on SPS-related work.  His sweet secretary facilitated that job after we spoke a coupla times on

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2019-04-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
What a grand plan. However, after reading the posting in detail, I find no cost per KW hr. projection based on the expected life of the solar orbit array, and the actual cost of building it and maintaining it, both in space and on the ground. Thus, solar and wind are still "pie in the sky" not con

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2019-04-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
It was all in the reports.  The stuff I worked on had some fairly realistic numbers on all that, based on what we knew at the time and some reasonable expectations of the march of technology. One of the biggest assumptions was the performance of solar photovoltaics going from maybe 3% efficienc

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2019-04-04 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
The idea still has merit, perhaps in the future when fossil fuels are depleted. My concern would be the microwave energy, keeping that pointed in a safe direction. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On April 4, 2019 6:28:40 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >It was all in the reports.  The

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2019-04-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Grant, I beg to differ. Idaho Power has just announced it proposes to install utilities scale solar for 2 and a half cents per kilowatt hour. The cheapest in history. On Thu, Apr 4, 2019, 7:47 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > The idea still has merit, perhaps in the future when fossil fuels a

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2019-04-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
How do you build an elephant? Order a mouse, built under government contract... ;)) A few billion spent in government programs to stimulate ignorance and inbreeding would reduce the population to the point where we need less energy... Ohh wait we already have those in place.. ;)) [Sarcasm

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2019-04-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Andrew, Points taken. The economy of scale for solar has taken large strides in the past 10 years as production costs for solar panels have dropped and conversion of light energy to electricity efficiency. per panel, has increased. Several large scale solar plants were on the plan prior to 2008 eco

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2019-04-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Hear Here! Great sermon!  SHort! Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 4/4/19 4:22 PM: The sun shines continuously a few thousand miles away https://www.wired.com/2014/04/solar-power-satellites-a-visual-introduction/ Full disclosure:  My first grown-up job was working for Peter Glaser on SP

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2019-04-05 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
That sounds like the homeless issue mixed with the safe space snow flakes. Both populations are not going to breed. The homeless do not use much plug in energy, and the snowflakes want to save all the energy. That just leaves the religious folk to increase the population. clay monroe > I tu