Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-04 Thread Dieselhead
ssion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR Message-ID: <4bb8c991.1020...@constructivity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Actually, thinking about it now, that is not a power generator, it is just a generator/alternator for whatev

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-04 Thread Curt Raymond
: Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR Message-ID: <4bb8c991.1020...@constructivity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Actually, thinking about it now, that is not a power generator, it is just a generator/alternator for whatever it comes from

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:58:43 -0700 Jim Cathey wrote: > > Is an ac-dc-ac interface capable of regulation cost effectively? > > Not usually, not on this scale! > > > I believe the utilities cross-region use this type of interface > > between systems? > > The big ones, yes. But the electrical gr

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 04:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: > The speed calculation is actually pretty simple, theres like 750w in an > hp so take the rated output of the generator, figure the hp required to > get there and look at the hp curve for your engine, gear accordingly... 746 W/HP. Don'

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-04 Thread Jim Cathey
I also see this thing up near this guy, I might go look at it. Would make a hell of a power supply for 12V if I could convert it to DC output. Big diodes! As-is that'd make a very nice low voltage lighting supply, for a pretty large system. -- Jim ___ h

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-04 Thread Jim Cathey
Is an ac-dc-ac interface capable of regulation cost effectively? Not usually, not on this scale! I believe the utilities cross-region use this type of interface between systems? The big ones, yes. But the electrical grid didn't start out like that. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-04 Thread Lwb250
I can sell you a Winco unit at a good price - we are a Winco dealer, too. The Generac home standbys are ideal, as they are designed specifically for the application and are more or less plug and play. Of course, you pay for that convenience, but it's all in what you're looking for. Dan Sent f

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2010-04-04 Thread Mountain Man
Jim wrote: > Traditionally regulated they can be > paralleled just fine, that's what's behind the electrical grid! Is an ac-dc-ac interface capable of regulation cost effectively? I believe the utilities cross-region use this type of interface between systems? mao

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2010-04-04 Thread Dieselhead
Most farm stores sell Winco generators. the PTO models are made for 540 RPM PTO. I am sure they sell direct drive too. Winco makes a 15 kw and a 25 Kw The 25 would be a match for the 27 Hp Kubota. Just have to check the engine RPM for the HP and match that to the generator RPM.I think

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2010-04-04 Thread OK Don
I went loooking for the definition of harmonically-regulated, and found this response on another board --- "I've done it many a time with nothing more than a pair of 120 volt light bulbs in series. This is the standard synchroscope backup in even large plants and an operator must be able to sync

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2010-04-04 Thread Rich Thomas
Actually, thinking about it now, that is not a power generator, it is just a generator/alternator for whatever it comes from. But still that engine could be decent. --R On 4/4/2010 1:08 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I'm going up there this evening to look at this thing, for $300 probably can't go w

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2010-04-04 Thread Rich Thomas
I'm going up there this evening to look at this thing, for $300 probably can't go wrong unless it is seized up or something. I'll try to turn it over, don't have a compression tester. don't know if he has it organized to try to start it or not. What should I look for? Says the gen is off to

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2010-04-04 Thread Jim Cathey
Generators easily. Alternators would have to be kept closely in phase. Maybe with a toothed belt and make one alternator adjustable, like timing an injection pump? This could work, but the phasing of the two generator heads would be very critical. Critical as in if they slip or jump out of pha

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2010-04-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: I called that guy this afternoon, he still had the engine/generator (with bad voltage regulator he says). This was the ubiquitous 27hp Yanmar three, right? Grab it, and if it's a runner, start looking for a Yanmar powered something with a fried engine that's selling for a s

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2010-04-04 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: Nope - haven't gotten tht far -- but it makes sense. They build belt driven motorcycles, and belt driven aircraft propellors, so I'd think there's be belts that could handle this load. Toothed belts are sorta like clean, quiet chains. You won't be running a Harley on a V-belt.

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2010-04-04 Thread Curt Raymond
:08 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR Message-ID: <908061.30410...@web65702.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 A number of issues here: 1.) No means of connecting belts to fl

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I called that guy this afternoon, he still had the engine/generator (with bad voltage regulator he says). He bought it from some guy with visions of "doing something" with it, but then moved to Stepford with some kind of HOA rules so he can't use it or do much with it, and his garage is full o

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2010-04-03 Thread OK Don
Nope - haven't gotten tht far -- but it makes sense. They build belt driven motorcycles, and belt driven aircraft propellors, so I'd think there's be belts that could handle this load. As for the off-center laod on a crank that wasn't designed for it - using more than one genhead evenly spaced arou

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2010-04-03 Thread alanc...@pacbell.net
This is not sarcasm but an actual question. Did you guys read the instructions (downloaded from H.F.) where is said to use a 16 hp motor at 36oo rpm using a dual belt? That is one of the good things about H.F. it allows you to read the instructions. Alan 1985 Turbo On 4/3/10 10:32 AM, Alex

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-03 Thread LWB250
lternators (generators to those not in the "business") so you've got a good piece of iron to work with. Dan --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Craig McCluskey wrote: From: Craig McCluskey Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 3:

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:19:08 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 wrote: > Quite honestly, unless you can come by the pieces cheap, it's rarely > ever worth the cost and hassle to try and cobble something like this > up.  There are far too many variables that affect the outcome.  That's > not to say you shouldn't t

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-03 Thread LWB250
ineered product. Just my $0.02. Dan --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Mitch Haley wrote: From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 2:10 PM LWB250 wrote: > BZZZT.  Wrong. > > Note that it&#x

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2010-04-03 Thread Peter T. Arnold
I'd run a cogged belt. Pete On 4/3/2010 2:54 PM, OK Don wrote: If you can use a belt, you could also use a chain -- with either, you can run the engine at the speed of your choice via different sized wheels rather than being locked into 1800 or 3600 RPM. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mitch

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 13:54:21 -0500 OK Don wrote: > If you can use a belt, you could also use a chain -- with either, you > can run the engine at the speed of your choice via different sized > wheels rather than being locked into 1800 or 3600 RPM. Which is why my Chevette-powered generator runs it

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2010-04-03 Thread OK Don
If you can use a belt, you could also use a chain -- with either, you can run the engine at the speed of your choice via different sized wheels rather than being locked into 1800 or 3600 RPM. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > LWB250 wrote: > >> BZZZT. Wrong. >> >> Note that

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-03 Thread Mitch Haley
LWB250 wrote: BZZZT. Wrong. Note that it's not a direct coupled unit, but belt driven. You would have to set up some sort of belt drive, which, at that sort of horsepower, would not be easy or cheap. Dan If the generator head does not have a pulley on it, why would it be harder to put a 1

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2010-04-03 Thread OK Don
Hmmm - run two of those with a 601 engine --- which I happen to have sitting in front of the garage right now -- On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:40 PM, LWB250 wrote: > > Now finding an alternator (generator) to bolt up is a whole 'nother > issu

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-03 Thread LWB250
this be a good deal? GENERATOR To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 1:32 PM On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:40 PM, LWB250 wrote: > Now finding an alternator (generator) to bolt up is a whole 'nother issue... Here is a $300 generator head to go with

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:40 PM, LWB250 wrote: > Now finding an alternator (generator) to bolt up is a whole 'nother issue... Here is a $300 generator head to go with your $300 engine: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45416 Alex ___

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2010-04-02 Thread LWB250
True, depending on how many hours the engine has one it, and what type of service it was originally in. Now finding an alternator (generator) to bolt up is a whole 'nother issue... Dan --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Hendrik & Fay wrote: From: Hendrik & Fay Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Would this b

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2010-04-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote: Well just to buy a 3 cyl Yanmar will cost about $5K and those motors are used in a lot of earthmoving equipment, so 300 bucks is a bargain. Is this a good deal on a 42 hp Yanmar? I'm more familiar with the 27hp engine. http://flint.craigslist.org/grd/1664257286.html

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2010-04-02 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Well just to buy a 3 cyl Yanmar will cost about $5K and those motors are used in a lot of earthmoving equipment, so 300 bucks is a bargain. Hendrik who has broken 1 cyl Yanmar, a working 3 cyl Yanmar and a working 3 cyl Kubota Rich Thomas wrote: I wondered about that, so I guess it is from so

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-02 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:57:49 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 wrote: > Where is the generator?  All I see is the flywheel housing, no > generator bolted to it. Strange. I thought perhaps the fellow means the alternator at the left front of the engine to keep the starting battery charged, but then I noticed he

Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR

2010-04-02 Thread LWB250
Where is the generator?  All I see is the flywheel housing, no generator bolted to it. Strange. Dan --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Rich Thomas wrote: From: Rich Thomas Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Would this be a good deal? GENERATOR To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 1

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2010-04-02 Thread Rich Thomas
I wondered about that, so I guess it is from something else. For $300 it might be a decent thing? Maybe our resident generator expert can chime in. --R On 4/2/2010 9:53 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Marine engines don't have a fan for a radiator. Looks like maybe out of a boat? --R http://charl