Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}

2013-06-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
day, June 23, 2013 12:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} MBUSA denied any and everything. 'Claimed "poor maintenance," though I had history of all proper maintenance, oil changes, etc., done at stealer&

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread WILTON
Indie tried to talk me out of replacing at 105+ kmi on the chain. 'Told 'im, "Original broke at 79 kmi; I don't trust it; replace it." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 2

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread WILTON
No. Asked indie to measure it; response when I asked what it was: "Oh, I forgot." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs WILTON wr

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: 4 degrees seems like a lot of stretch. What's the spec? I think it's 6° for 61x and 3 or 4° for 60x. I'd be real unhappy if my indy told me it wasn't worth replacing at the factory wear limit. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new a

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread Dan Penoff
4 degrees seems like a lot of stretch. What's the spec? Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > WILTON wrote: >> Well, maybe I did, though, 'didn't trust the one replaced at 79 kmi past >> about 100 kmi; did precautionary replacement at ~185 kmi on the car. > > Any idea what th

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Well, maybe I did, though, 'didn't trust the one replaced at 79 kmi past about 100 kmi; did precautionary replacement at ~185 kmi on the car. Any idea what the stretch was on it when it was replaced? Found this comment on a '93 300D chain failure: http://www.peachparts.com/shopf

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread WILTON
That's what the "word" was at that time; no talk of bad chains then, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs Chris James

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread WILTON
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs 'Never heard of chronic timing chain problem 'till it was mentioned on this list today. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Chris James" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:06 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread WILTON
'Never heard of chronic timing chain problem 'till it was mentioned on this list today. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Chris James" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs Wel

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Chris James wrote: If an original 3.5L OM603 engine has made it 20yrs/150Kmi and currently has no issues, I would think it's safe to assume it not a "Rod bender". Many did have issues though (usually just outside of the warranty, IIRC) & I'm not sure if a definite answer of why this was occurri

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs

2013-06-23 Thread Chris James
age - From: "Craig" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:30:25 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: Timing chain in mine broke at 79 kmi. Replaced c

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}

2013-06-23 Thread WILTON
iscussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} WILTON wrote: Your supposition is wrong. MB paid "half" cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}

2013-06-23 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Your supposition is wrong. MB paid "half" cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800. And this was one of the admittedly (MBUSA did admit it, right?) defective timing chains from the early 1990s. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}

2013-06-23 Thread WILTON
Your supposition is wrong. MB paid "half" cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013

[MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}

2013-06-23 Thread Craig
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:30:25 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: > Timing chain in mine broke at 79 kmi. Replaced chain, chain guides, > several valves and lifters, head gasket and lots of stuff I don't > remember. Milled head. Walt's has crate engine from Mercedes. I suppose that since it was at 79 kmi, M