Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
And frightens away any snakes, too? -D > On Nov 26, 2023, at 7:06 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes > wrote: > > On the other hand, the hissing helps drown out any tinnitus one has. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives

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2023-11-26 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On the other hand, the hissing helps drown out any tinnitus one has. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Built in leaks that you can chase for the rest of your life, or until you burn the shop down. Terrific idea. /sarcasm... -Curt On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:37:45 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings

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2023-11-24 Thread MB list etc via Mercedes
Pex-Al-Pex is what the air line kit I bought uses. I think the fittings were special. I don't think that something that can explode and send srapnel in the shop is a place to save mmoney, though I did shop for the least expensive solution. On Friday, November 24th, 2023 at 5:37 PM, dan

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2023-11-24 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Typo. 1/2” (one half inch). -D > On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:37:43 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be around $140, which doesn’t seem that >> expensive compared to other materials, like

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2023-11-24 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:37:43 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" wrote: > 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be around $140, which doesn’t seem that > expensive compared to other materials, like copper or iron pipe. 12" ?? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

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2023-11-24 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I just did some cursory searching, and the general consensus seems to be that while you can use PEX for air lines, it’s not considered ideal for a number of reasons, most of which seem to focus on permeability and burst pressure. What many of the articles do suggest, however, is to consider

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-24 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yea I think you are right, it will be much cheaper using regular pex fittings and buying the crimp tool and rings off amazon. On 11/24/2023 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use SharkBite fittings. They seem to average

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-24 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really quick. It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need or buy a kit

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2023-11-24 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
3/4″ Fastpipe 230FT Master Kitrapidairproducts.comKaleb, have you looked at Rapid Air?  I asked my engineer son-in-law what he would use and he recommended this company.  They have various kits or you can use the site to build your own system.  Michael E. EshOn Nov 24, 2023, at 12:18 PM, Randy

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2023-11-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something. I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my

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2023-11-24 Thread MB list etc via Mercedes
Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-23 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. > > Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-23 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > wrote: > > The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for > your shop > > > > >> On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-23 Thread MB list etc via Mercedes
The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for your shop On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 

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2023-11-23 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > wrote: > > Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch > lines. > > > > >> On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-23 Thread MB list etc via Mercedes
Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch lines. On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > hoses strung all over the place. Probably

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-23 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Most of these kits have drain valves in the bottom of each drop/outlet Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb. > From my wet learning experience:- > If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that you > can

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-23 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Craig, et al. My boss got sprayed and didn't like it. Had to refit drain(s). This despite having a water separator and dryer. Fred. On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 1:02 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:40:44 -0500 Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Kaleb. > > From my wet

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:40:44 -0500 Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote: > Kaleb. > From my wet learning experience:- > If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that > you can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. > BTDT. Felt like an idiot. > Fred. If you

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-23 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Kaleb. From my wet learning experience:- If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that you can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. BTDT. Felt like an idiot. Fred. On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 11:48 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

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2023-11-23 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Have you considered using PEX? Randy On 22/11/2023 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop.  Tired of having hoses strung all over the place.  Probably going to get a couple of those flex tubing kits.  I will be running up to 3/4"

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2023-11-23 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yep Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:15 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Regardless of pipe size, ALWAYS install a shut off ball valve inline coming > OUT of the compressor tank, and ALWAYS close that valve, along with opening > the main off switch to your compressor. > Every

Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-22 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Regardless of pipe size, ALWAYS install a shut off ball valve inline coming OUT of the compressor tank, and ALWAYS close that valve, along with opening the main off switch to your compressor. Every time you leave the shop for longer than to take lunch. Air leak = air compressor running =

[MBZ] Shop air lines

2023-11-22 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop.  Tired of having hoses strung all over the place.  Probably going to get a couple of those flex tubing kits.  I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire machine, tire air hoses etc.  My initial thought it I will have at least 4 outlets at

Re: [MBZ] Shop air

2021-10-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I wonder about PEX? It is more flexible and less brittle than PVC or ABS. Randy On 25/10/2021 11:19 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: https://blog.exair.com/2019/05/01/is-pvc-pipe-alright-to-use-with-compressed-air/ Good info on this site with contact info at the to discuss your project.

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2021-10-25 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
https://blog.exair.com/2019/05/01/is-pvc-pipe-alright-to-use-with-compressed-air/ Good info on this site with contact info at the to discuss your project. Is PVC Pipe Alright to Use with Compressed Air? PUBLISHED ON May 1, 2019 by Brian Farno A question arises every now and then on whether or

Re: [MBZ] Shop air

2021-10-25 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> always use a mount clamp at each quick disconnect to reduce strain when you > yank on the hose Consider an el-stupido move like catching a hose on the bumper of a car you're backing out. You don't want your entire air system to go out the door too, dragging your compressor on its side out

Re: [MBZ] Shop air

2021-10-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
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2021-10-24 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
k Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and > >>> stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rick > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>

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2021-10-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Because the galvanized coating can flake off and end up in your tools. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 24, 2021 9:03 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop air Supposedly galvanized is not recommended, not sure

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2021-10-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
You could cheap out and use PEX and black iron or copper. You will have to invest in the tools for PEX tubing though. https://youtu.be/40kHcnGjw78 This young fellow used copper. At the present time, it would be too much money. https://youtu.be/GCLNbb-n_PQ Another couple votes for PEX.

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2021-10-24 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air There was some discussion a while bac

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2021-10-24 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
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2021-10-24 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
; davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop air lines. Somebody had bo

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2021-10-24 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
tional outlets and > >> stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Rick > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>  Original Message > >>>&g

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2021-10-24 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
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2021-10-24 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
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2021-10-24 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
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2021-10-24 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
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2021-10-24 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
.com>; okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air There was some discussion

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2021-10-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
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2021-10-24 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That was me, and this is what I bought - a 100 ft. kit, then lots of additional fittings, regulators, etc. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FKYRTU/ref=asin_title?ie=UTF8=1 https://www.rapidairproducts.com/rapidair-home-garage On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 4:54 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

[MBZ] Shop air

2021-10-24 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop air lines.  Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, valves, etc.  Ring any bells?  Can somebody refresh my memory on these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search