[MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-23 Thread Brian Chase
I actually drove the thing today. Shifts real hard and with a jerk. I would envy that type of shift in my musclecar, but with this auto, it seems to indicate a problem? Or something not as it should be? I told him to check the fluid, and it was below the second mark. It took a couple seconds to

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
Jerky transmission could be any number of vacuum or transmission related issues that requires a GOOD and EXPERIENCED Mercedes diesel mechanic to sort out. The rear windows symptoms ARE a problem and a major PIA to fix, though not beyond the ability of most DIYers. That being said, if the vehicle

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-23 Thread R A Bennell
See, there are polite ways to say the same sort of thing. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-23 Thread Ed Booher
It's spotted? Like an owl? On 2/22/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually drove the thing today. Shifts real hard and with a jerk. I would envy that type of shift in my musclecar, but with this auto, it seems to indicate a problem? Or something not as it should be? I told him to

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the 85 california model has the 722.4, but not the fed version. Dave M. wrote: Whoa, Nellie. The tranny used in the 1985 W123's is different, but not bulletproof, to my knowledge. It doesn't have a lockup converter, either. It has a *looser* converter, like the later (86-up) diesels, but

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-22 Thread John Berryman
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 06:04 PM, Dave M. wrote: Whoa, Nellie. The tranny used in the 1985 W123's is different, but not bulletproof, to my knowledge. It doesn't have a lockup converter, either. It has a *looser* converter, like the later (86-up) diesels, but definitely no lockup. I

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-22 Thread Dave M.
: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale Whoa, Nellie. The tranny used in the 1985 W123's is different, but not bulletproof, to my knowledge. It doesn't have a lockup converter, either. It has a *looser* converter, like the later (86-up) diesels, but definitely

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-22 Thread Luther Gulseth
Then, would a pre '85 tranny with the '85 diff be the ultimate setup? On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:28:30 -0600, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I'm at home and checked the EPC. The W123 diesels through 1984 have a 722.315 tranny, which is the strong/beefy tranny used behind MB's powerful

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-22 Thread John Berryman
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 07:28 PM, Dave M. wrote: OK, I'm at home and checked the EPC. The W123 diesels through 1984 have a 722.315 tranny, which is the strong/beefy tranny used behind MB's powerful engines (including the near-400hp V12 in the S600/SL600). The 1985 W123 diesels got

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-22 Thread Dave M.
-- Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:19:22 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale the 85 california model has the 722.4, but not the fed version.

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
and the looser converter. =) -dm -- Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:19:22 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale the 85 california model has the 722.4, but not the fed version

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
but with taller gears and the looser converter. =) -dm -- Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:19:22 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale the 85 california model has the 722.4, but not the fed version

[MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-21 Thread Brian Chase
Driving around here in Tucson, I spotted an '82 CD for sale. I caught the owner as he came out of his jewelry shop. He says he is very interested in selling quickly to make room in his garage. The thing looks real nice - light tan, clean from what I saw. Said the tranny was slipping but he

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-21 Thread Jim Cathey
Driving around here in Tucson, I spotted an '82 CD for sale. When I saw the topic I thought: Rust spots? Gateway paint job? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Price is way too high for an '82 CD with obvious issues. On 2/20/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Driving around here in Tucson, I spotted an '82 CD for sale. When I saw the topic I thought: Rust spots? Gateway paint job? -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-21 Thread John Berryman
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 11:08 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Price is way too high for an '82 CD with obvious issues. How much do you figure it should go for? How about a near mint one? Blue Book is not a good enough source for value of these cars. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
A near-mint maroon '85 CD sold for $9800 last fall. The virtue of the '85 model is its bulletproof transmisssion. On 2/21/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 11:08 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Price is way too high for an '82 CD with obvious

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-21 Thread John Berryman
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 02:59 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: A near-mint maroon '85 CD sold for $9800 last fall. The virtue of the '85 model is its bulletproof transmisssion. Dayum! What makes the 85 trans any more bulletproof than others? It has a lock-up convertor but

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:43:25PM -0500, John Berryman wrote: On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 02:59 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: A near-mint maroon '85 CD sold for $9800 last fall. The virtue of the '85 model is its bulletproof transmisssion. Dayum! What makes

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-21 Thread Jim Cathey
What makes the 85 trans any more bulletproof than others? It has a lock-up convertor but what else? I thought the difference was that the torque converter was looser, and that the rear end gear was taller. I know they increased the stall speed, allowing for a greater off-line launch

Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale

2006-02-21 Thread Dave M.
:43:25 -0500 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 02:59 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: A near-mint maroon '85 CD sold for $9800 last fall. The virtue of the '85 model is its bulletproof transmisssion