Re: [MBZ] Sweet Interior

2023-10-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Or get new downpipes made for it. > Manifolds from later car, adapt exhaust pipery? The catty centers in our '76 SL were punched out. Probably long before we got it. > Interesting now that I think about it: I know of directly and heard of > numerous instances where 450SLs caught fire due to

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2023-10-20 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
Correct. On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:22 AM Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > In 1972? > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:20 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> That would have been the R107. The W116 followed it. >> >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2023, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> > >> >

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2023-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In 1972? On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:20 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That would have been the R107. The W116 followed it. > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2023, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > >Was this the first model with a six digit odometer? > > > _

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2023-10-20 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
That would have been the R107. The W116 followed it. On Fri, 20 Oct 2023, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >Was this the first model with a six digit odometer? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or c

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2023-10-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh, the interior is hideous. I love it... -Curt On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 12:48:41 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Almost the same car but green x 2. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1000807201136161/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&ref

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2023-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Anyway, 1975 and 1976 had the same issue whatever it is/was, so I just avoid them out of habit. On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:35 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Hmm. Could be. I have no idea. Maybe the amount of air that could get > through the grille was higher on th

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2023-10-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Hmm. Could be. I have no idea. Maybe the amount of air that could get through the grille was higher on the W116, so it ran cooler? The problem wasn’t really the catalytic converters directly, it was the fuel lines that broke down from the excessive heat the “cats” produced. They break down, spl

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2023-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Perhaps because they are closer to the ground? On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:20 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Or get new downpipes made for it. > > Interesting now that I think about it: I know of directly and heard of > numerous instances where 450SLs caught fire d

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2023-10-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Or get new downpipes made for it. Interesting now that I think about it: I know of directly and heard of numerous instances where 450SLs caught fire due to underhood temps on the 1975 models as a result of the “mini-cats” that were put in the exhaust pipes just past the headers. I don’t think I

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2023-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Must avoid '75 due to cat. converter issues. On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You should buy that > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > > On Oct 20, 2023, at 12:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >

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2023-10-20 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
You should buy that --FT Sent from iFōn > On Oct 20, 2023, at 12:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Almost the same car but green x 2. > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1000807201136161/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top

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2023-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Almost the same car but green x 2. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1000807201136161/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:28 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks for sharing, D

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2023-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Was this the first model with a six digit odometer? On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:35 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I’m not sure. At one time, some of the older models, which ones I don’t > recall, had plastic “hinges” of a sort that looked like these. I can’t tell

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2023-10-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Thanks for sharing, David! Good information for the knowledge base. I’ve never seen metal hinges that I recall, but I have seen the plastic ones numerous times. -D > On Oct 20, 2023, at 12:01 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes > wrote: > > My '79 300SD has a hinged cover like the ones shown. I

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2023-10-20 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
My '79 300SD has a hinged cover like the ones shown. I don't know whether there were ever cars without hinges. In early cars they were made of metal, later ones made of breakable plastic: is it possible that's what happened to yours? On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:35 AM Allan Streib wrote: > > The hin

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2023-10-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I’m not sure. At one time, some of the older models, which ones I don’t recall, had plastic “hinges” of a sort that looked like these. I can’t tell for sure from the photo, but these could be the setup. -D > On Oct 20, 2023, at 11:07 AM, dan penoff.com wrote: > > Seat pads are blown out, whic

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2023-10-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The hinges on the spare tire cover are not original are they? In my '79 300SD the entire cover panel just pulls out, it is not hinged. On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, at 10:08, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Seat pads are blown out, which is typical for a car of its age. > Otherwise, it looks nice,

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2023-10-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Seat pads are blown out, which is typical for a car of its age. Otherwise, it looks nice, but sorting the fuel system after sitting that long isn’t going to be cheap. -D > On Oct 20, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4966705593

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2023-10-20 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
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2023-02-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
That point was brought out by the paint supply people I spoke with. EPA mandated no more paint that used VOC's and the paint companies scrambled to formulate new systems that could meet the new EPA rules... What they produced was paints that could meet the "No VOC emissions" rules, but the new pain

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2023-02-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
When I was a kid that was one of my chores: wash and wax dad's car. He bought Kit wax, as I recall. He scoffed at car washes, said they didn't get the car clean and scratched the paint. Maybe also because when I did the work it was free? On Sun, Feb 12, 2023, at 13:27, OK Don via Mercedes wrot

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2023-02-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Exactly - the ease of obtaining that great showroom gloss. On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:12 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You probably can’t get the gloss level achieved with a clear coat, I would > presume. > > -D > > > On Feb 12, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Allan Streib vi

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2023-02-12 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
You probably can’t get the gloss level achieved with a clear coat, I would presume. -D > On Feb 12, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Environmental rules on paint? IDK but maybe good single stage paint formulas > are not possible or too expensive with water based paint

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2023-02-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Environmental rules on paint? IDK but maybe good single stage paint formulas are not possible or too expensive with water based paint? On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, at 21:36, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > great question. allows them to use cheaper paint? > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 9:13 PM Craig via M

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2023-02-11 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
great question. allows them to use cheaper paint? On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 9:13 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 20:59:26 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > > yes. in general I don't like clear coat > > YES! Why don't manufacturers like single-stage paint anymore? > > >

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2023-02-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 20:59:26 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > yes. in general I don't like clear coat YES! Why don't manufacturers like single-stage paint anymore? Craig > On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 6:26 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > That makes se

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2023-02-11 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
yes. in general I don't like clear coat On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 6:26 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That makes sense. I hadn’t ever thought about it in that way. So the clear > coat literally cooks itself. Yes, another good reason for single stage > paint. > > -D >

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2023-02-11 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That makes sense. I hadn’t ever thought about it in that way. So the clear coat literally cooks itself. Yes, another good reason for single stage paint. -D > On Feb 11, 2023, at 5:59 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've had numerous discussions with paint supply folks about the base coat

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2023-02-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I've had numerous discussions with paint supply folks about the base coat / clear coat systems currently being used vs the single stage paint that was used on Mercedes for decades and the explanation given was this. "The clear coat acts as a lens that allows sunlight in, which is reflected by the b

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2023-02-11 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
10 years? Seems like it takes less than that to get the “patina” from the cars I’ve seen in northern AZ, but that may be for newer ones with more modern paint that doesn’t seem to hold up as well. You would think that with the progress in materials science there would be some developments in a

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2023-02-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
That is a great example of the "Special Arizona Desert Paint Patina" that only comes from living parked outside for about 10 years in 125 degree sun heat. "Zero rust, air blows cold, or not at all" On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 11:03 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 2

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2023-02-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
280SE? 380SE? Never seen brown velour before. Kinda like it. On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 12:56 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > [image: 00U0U_gMiIkb5vqp1z_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg] > > 1984 Mercedes - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale >

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2023-02-11 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
1984 Mercedes - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive salephoenix.craigslist.orgLooks like it’s been sandblasted AZBobSent from my iPad___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery