Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Dieselhead
DITTO HERE. If you want some added insurance, put in the new master with the center link, roll it to the edge of the cam sprocket and then put a wrap or two of plain masking tape around it. Even if the masking tape fell off in the chaincase, it would not cause harm. Option two, which I like

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Scott Ritchey
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana rail alone, we changed the upper left slide ra

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread dseretakis
So far no perceptible difference but I didn't drive it long enough. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Congrats! Can you detect any improvement in how the engine runs? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > dsereta...@yaho

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Max Dillon
Congrats! Can you detect any improvement in how the engine runs? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana >rail alone, we changed the upper left slide rail and the tensioner.

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Craig
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:49:18 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > Thanks. My car has a manual tranny so it must be for something else. It could also have something to do with the EGR. Craig > On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Craig wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:29:18 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.c

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread dseretakis
Thanks. My car has a manual tranny so it must be for something else. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Craig wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:29:18 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana >> rail alone, we change

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Craig
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:29:18 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana > rail alone, we changed the upper left slide rail and the tensioner. We > didn't prime the tensioner. Drove the car and all is well. Fred's tool > for removing the

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread dseretakis
Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana rail alone, we changed the upper left slide rail and the tensioner. We didn't prime the tensioner. Drove the car and all is well. Fred's tool for removing the guide pin worked like a charm. I also ended up borrowing a service l

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread OK Don
Correct - I never had to remove the crank pulley to replace the banana rail. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a recess > in the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin which > anchors the bottom

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Max Dillon
Yes, submerge in engine oil, compress and release until no more air comes out and the force required to compress is very high. BBB procedure calls for using an arbor press or drill press (but no drilling, just compressing). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dseret

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread dseretakis
Will try that. Also does the tensioner have to be primed? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a recess in > the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin which anchors > the bott

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Max Dillon
Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a recess in the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin which anchors the bottom of the rail. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >Ok, I borrowed one with a

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Frederick Moir
n List >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:41 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link > >Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend.  Now, I'm trying to get the >large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley has to come >off for access. Does anyone kno

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread dseretakis
Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to get the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley has to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around 0.5-1 mm deep. Is it worth changing? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, M

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Mitch Haley
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So you don't use either one of the two plates? If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the two chains together. Does the original have a master? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Max Dillon
Use the middle plate. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >So you don't use either one of the two plates? > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Max Dillon >wrote: > >> You don't peen the new chain to the old. I used the ne

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread dseretakis
So you don't use either one of the two plates? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Max Dillon wrote: > You don't peen the new chain to the old. I used the new link, but not the > plate, and it stayed in place just fine on the two chains I've done. Did > both solo. > -- > Max D

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-18 Thread Max Dillon
You don't peen the new chain to the old. I used the new link, but not the plate, and it stayed in place just fine on the two chains I've done. Did both solo. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >I'm finally replacing the timing chain on

[MBZ] Timing chain link

2013-01-17 Thread dseretakis
I'm finally replacing the timing chain on my 240D tomorrow. The chain came with a master link which is not a split link. When I attach the new chain to the old and peen on the link, turn the chain, then don't I have to grind off new link to separate old chain from new? Then don't I need a new l