Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-06 Thread Allan Streib
I think that old Mongomery Ward tools are pretty good. My dad had a set of combination wrenches and a couple of other items from them, probably circa 1965 or so, maybe earlier. The look and feel good, and work well, and none of them has broken yet. LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Howdy --

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-06 Thread Allan Streib
LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just cut about 35% off my water bill by going to a front loading washing machine last month. Which one did you buy? I have considered this but the big front-loaders have gotten so large over the past few years they look like they'd use as much water as my

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-06 Thread LWB250
Mine was a GE model (I can give you the number if you're really interested) that retailed around $700. I think it has a 3.5 cubic foot capacity, which is more than adequate for us. According to the specs, it uses around 15 gallons of water per cycle, compared with as much as 45 gallons for my

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-04 Thread Zoltan Finks
Man, that gives me flashbacks of the statistics class I took to get my bachelor's degree recently. Is the bathtub curve the bell curve? Brian You've just read about all I remember of statistics Tom wrote: Some items like light bulbs follow a very predictable curve. Take a 1000 hour light bulb,

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: Man, that gives me flashbacks of the statistics class I took to get my bachelor's degree recently. Is the bathtub curve the bell curve? More like the antithesis of the bell curve. A 'normal distribution' bell curve peaks at the mean and drops off on both sides. The

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond
in the summer but I'm okay with that. -Curt Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 19:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

[MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread LarryT
Howdy -- We talked about this issue a week or so ago - we basically said you get what you pay for - I got a surprise recently. I bought a 3 draw unit for my toolchest that fits between the top box and bottom box - btw, I highly recommend this method of adding more space. It is very

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread Zoltan Finks
Shoot, too bad the quality is not as good. On the subject, I realized last night that the Durabilt tools I got for my wedding from Target have a lifetime warranty. This is the tool set from which the socket broke on an oil pan drain plug. Too bad a guest at our house threw the socket in the

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
for the finish. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality Shoot, too bad the quality

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Know what the difference is between the 10 yr guarantee water heater and the 5 yr guarantee water heater? About $100, or whatever -- they are the same unit with a longer guarantee. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread LWB250
Having just purchased and installed a water heater last weekend, I would beg to differ with you on that Yes, the warranty does work out to about $10/year as you move up the scale, however, there are also differences in construction and components as well. For instance, the 6 year warranty

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread John M McIntosh
Ya, consumer reports sawed a bunch in half a year back or so. They said the 12 year ones were seriously different inside. Better quality, better durability, better engineering. In fact price versus what you got was way better. But I do recall they said the 3 versus the 5 year ones were the

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread LWB250
I guess I look at the difference in cost amortized over the life of the appliance. That being considered, you're talking about less than $10/year for the difference, which isn't really significant in my mind. That also doesn't factor in the cost savings in energy efficiency. While I can't

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread John M McIntosh
On Aug 3, 2007, at 7:37 PM, LWB250 wrote: That also doesn't factor in the cost savings in energy efficiency. While I can't imagine water heater technology has gotten to the point of really major gains in efficiency over the last 10 years, with other appliances it is definitely a

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Good info, I am corrected. My experience was of some years ago, working with some manufacturers -- they just sold a longer warranty on the same unit, gaming on how long they would last. I guess they are either smarter now, or more competitive. Good info to know. My experience with

Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality Ya, consumer reports sawed a bunch in half a year back or so. They said the 12 year ones were