Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs. GM was Re: Anyone Have Carfax?

2006-08-05 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve MacSween wrote: Unfortunately, though I agree with you about their deserving to go the way of the dodo, the plain fact is that they are simply too huge to die. You cannot put a company that large out of business except by government action, not to my knowledge anyway. GM will do

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs. GM was Re: Anyone Have Carfax?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, if they don't learn to build decent automobiles, even that won't help! The real problem is the management culture. Peter

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs. GM was Re: Anyone Have Carfax?

2006-08-05 Thread Steve MacSween
on 8/4/06 5:48 PM, Rick Knoble at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, though I agree with you about their deserving to go the way of the dodo, the plain fact is that they are simply too huge to die. You cannot put a company that large out of business except by government action, not to

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs. GM was Re: Anyone Have Carfax?

2006-08-05 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve MacSween wrote: Creditors can bring a smaller firm to its knees, but when you are playing to the stakes and on the scale GM operates, worldwide, it would be an administrative nightmare and no one is in a position to see a net benefit from pulling the plug on them. Although I do hear

[MBZ] Toyota vs. GM was Re: Anyone Have Carfax?

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Knoble
- Original Message - snip Remember that Toyota is poised to surpass GM as the largest automaker on the planet. Thats Toyota, Lexus and Scion vs Chevrolet, GMC, Buick, Pontiac, Cadillac, Hummer, Saab, and Saturn. Wasn't it also the crazy chairman of Toyota (could have been Honda)

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs. GM was Re: Anyone Have Carfax?

2006-08-04 Thread Jeff Zedic
Nothing can save GM. They have decades to build a better product and they've squandered every chance they got. And then t add lunacy to the mix,they've built their while recovery on their new SUV's Dumb dumb dumb! Jeff Zedic 87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs. GM was Re: Anyone Have Carfax?

2006-08-04 Thread Steve MacSween
Unfortunately, though I agree with you about their deserving to go the way of the dodo, the plain fact is that they are simply too huge to die. You cannot put a company that large out of business except by government action, not to my knowledge anyway. I wager Ford will be the one to go. One of

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs. GM was Re: Anyone Have Carfax?

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Knoble
snip Unfortunately, though I agree with you about their deserving to go the way of the dodo, the plain fact is that they are simply too huge to die. You cannot put a company that large out of business except by government action, not to my knowledge anyway. Ever hear of Bethlehem Steel? LTV