How many miles are on your Cummins, and is it auto tranny or manny?? My
'07 6spd auto will get a consistent 21MPG with 4 passengers and a light load
at 70mph with just over 5K miles on the clock. It's promising to be a good
truck other than the payment! The only way that you can tell it's a
Guys who really use their truck for hauling are not going to get rid of it
because diesel is higher right now.
That's true. I'm sure glad I didn't end up buying that Ram 1500 with the
5.7L Hemi! I would only be getting 15 or 16 MPG highway right now! I
traded the Sprinter in due to it's
How many miles are on your Cummins, and is it auto tranny or manny??
About 75kmi, stickshift. We drive it when we need a truck,
not otherwise. (OK, my wife ferries schoolkids in it on field
trips as it'll hold six people. The only other vehicle we have
that will carry six is the Falcon, but
My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company vehicle, which
is fine with me. However, I have little or no experience or exposure to these
kinds of vehicles, so I would be interested in what those who have had direct
experience think about various models and brands.
Crew cab, I think the Dakota is your only viable option.
Extended cabs all over the place. The Colorado and Ranger are still smaller
than a
full size, the Dakota might as well be a Silverado as far as fuel consumption is
concerned. I'm always taking a 2nd look at Dodges trying to figure out if
LWB250 wrote:
Not a full size pickup Prefer domestic manufacturers (darn!)
Something that's 2-3 years old (they will buy this from a trusted
dealer, possibly an auction vehicle)
I would like it to be a crew cab or an extended cab so I can
stretch out and carry stuff in the cab and not have
Dan My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company vehicle,
which is fine with me. However, I have little or no experience or exposure to
these kinds of vehicles, so I would be interested in what those who have had
direct experience think about various models and brands.
I
Get the 4.0L V6 as the mileage is about
the same as the 3.0L V6, but has more performance. I have the 2.3L
I4... it gets the job done, but the V6 would be nice.
Another factor, besides fuel economy and performance, is
durability and ease of service. If those are to be factors.
(And I have no
I went looking for a small pickup several months ago and was really
disappointed to find there is no such thing any more. The
Tacoma/Frontier/Colorado are now as big as the Dakota used to be,
forcing Dodge to make the Dakota as big as what a full sized truck
used to be.
I was also more interested
Cheap isn't an issue, as these guys are more concerned with reliability. I
seem to recall them having a problem with Ford for some reason, but I'm not
sure why. Since we have a service fleet of vehicles they may be transferring
issues with those to the whole brand.
Their only absolute
Jim Cathey wrote:
I followed a Subaru Brat yesterday. Those are _small_!
Subaru 1600 wagon converted to El Camino style. Mine was the wagon.
In later years, they had the 1800cc engine and I think some even had
a 5sp. Smaller than a LUV.
BTW, if Dan wasn't looking for a domestic, a Subaru Baja
It appears that the Frontier can be had in a more or less bare bones 4 cyl.
5/6 speed manual if you want it, but I'll bet that there isn't one on a
dealer's lot to be found.
I was pleasantly surprised to read some of the reviews from the 6 cyl.
slushbox owners saying that they are getting
Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense and will make less
sense as fuel prices increase. Get a car for commuting (Jetta TDI) and
a real truck for hauling. I like the little cab-forward Isuzu diesels
for hauling. They drive like a car and the smallest ones can take at
least 5 tons in
That may be true for the average consumer, Dave, but this is for a company
vehicle that I will be hauling things in on a regular basis. Given the choice
I would prefer to have a car, but business dictates that I be able to haul
small loads when necessary, so the truck is a given.
As for
Unless you are hauling loads to and from your house, I question your
logic. As far as passing the costs to the consumer - I'm sure your
competition welcomes it.
-Dave Walton
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That may be true for the average consumer, Dave, but
dave walton wrote:
Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need
it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now.
This is to be a company vehicle... He is in the generator business, and
I imagine he'll be using that pickup bed fairly often.
John
LWB250 wrote:
That may be true for the average consumer, Dave,
Dave was suggesting leaving the truck at the shop and driving a car home.
I take it you need to have the truck with you all the time?
Maybe the company can go green and give you a 48hp diesel Rabbit P/U?
No extended cab version
dave walton wrote:
Unless you are hauling loads to and from your house, I question your
logic. As far as passing the costs to the consumer - I'm sure your
competition welcomes it.
Isn't that assuming the only driving he does all day is to-from work? I
think he is talking about driving
the bed,
4cyl, 5spd, limited slip diff
-Curt
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LWB250 wrote:
gt; Not a full size pickup Prefer
to have a cap on it
to keep generators and whatnot dry.
-Curt
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That might make sense for some, but home is only a
couple of miles at this point, and may even be closer
after we get settled. Under those circumstances the
savings would be marginal at best. Not to mention the
company covers the cost of the truck...
Dan
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going to have a cap on it to
keep generators and whatnot dry.
-Curt
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Shaddup kid you'll ruin my argument ;)
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Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense
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Shaddup kid you'll ruin my argument ;)
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Curt Raymond wrote:
I knew somebody posted that before but I can't find any corroberating
evidence of this...
It was me... You can't find any corroborating evidence because that test
was conducted at a private facility under a private contract, etc.
John
Curt Raymond wrote:
I see no reason why anyone should buy a Ranger, they're small, don't
handle well, not terribly powerful, not roomy, get poor gas mileage,
can't haul much and are expensive...
Won't argue with the small, although that might be what some people are
looking for. I really
Dave wrote: Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I
need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now.
Curt wrote in response: Point being whats right for one is not right for
everybody.
I think Curt's response to this is probably the smart thing to say. BUT, my
response
Donald Snook wrote:
4. MASSIVE decrease in refining capacity in the last 30 years
Do you have any evidence for this? I have heard of the whole no new
refineries bit, but never of a decrease in capacity. Not building new
ones doesn't mean you can't rebuild existing ones for higher capacity
Dave wrote: I'd suspect that you want anything that won't fit in a Jetta wagon
to go on a real truck anyway. You can't argue with 50+ mpg. The good news is
that most new truck owners can't afford to drive them or sell them for what
they owe and the lots are full of unsold ones. You can get them
There is a big difference between the company buying you a truck and
the company suggesting you buy a truck and they will pay your
expenses.
Basically, don't buy anything you don't want to get stuck with -
things change. You may think they won't, and they might not - but they
may.
-Dave Walton
Curt wrote: I see no reason why anyone should buy a Ranger, they're small,
don't handle well, not terribly powerful, not roomy, get poor gas mileage,
can't haul much and are expensive...
The Ranger gets piss poor gas mileage, the same as the Colorado crew cab
5cyl... 3mpg better than the big
They do make a Colorado crew cab at least from '05. My Dad had a 2wd model
with the 2.8L 4 cylinder. I don't remember the fuel mileage numbers, but it
didn't get anywhere near the 30MPG average of the '03 Jetta wagon which he
traded in for it. It was quite a comfortable truck, even compared
most new truck
owners can't afford to drive them or sell them for what they owe and
the lots are full of unsold ones.
I can't believe the number of Dodge Ram Diesels on the market right now! My
truck stickered at 42K, and you can't even get $30K for it even with only 5K
miles! Trade-in would
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Curt Raymond wrote:
gt; I see no reason why anyone should buy
...
-Curt
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Curt
wrote: I see
Whenever I've needed a truck for the last 29 years I've used my two-wheel
utility trailer that sits in the edge of the yard on standby. Cargo bed is
4 X 8 steel unit from a '47 Ford pickup. Has nice fenders on it not
original Ford. 'Bout 12 years ago, I put new springs, axle, wheels, hitch
and
In a message dated 6/13/2008 6:13:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company vehicle,
which is fine with me. However, I have little or no experience or exposure to
these kinds of vehicles, so I would be
Look at it this way, obviously the vehicle in question needs to carry
stuff now and again that is too big for a sedan or station wagon to carry.
So what is going to happen when a load needs to be carried? Get a
courier in to do the work and pass the cost of the courier off to the
consumer, you
Of course, Dodge has a full sized diesel pickup, Cummins powered,
which many
report over 20 MPG unloaded.
My '97 gets 25-26 MPG on the freeway if I hold it at 62 or less.
Repeatably. Holds a lot, too. Knocking around town I think it's
more like 17.
-- Jim
Well the deal is alot of diesel trucks were bought by the dime store
cowboys who just wanted a big diesel truck to drive around town. Guys
who really use their truck for hauling are not going to get rid of it
because diesel is higher right now.
Kevin Kraly wrote:
most new truck
owners can't
Ford Ranger.
LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company
vehicle, which is fine with me. However, I have little or no
experience or exposure to these kinds of vehicles, so I would be
interested in what those who have had direct experience
dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm just encouraging you to look at other options. It is not a
question of IF the price of fuel will double or triple from where it
is now, but WHEN.
Not to change the subject, but I don't think the market will support
$12/gallon gasoline. Before then,
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