Benz Hogs wrote:
700 is a touch bigger in diameter than the old 27.
I think Luther got that backwards.
Bead seat diameter on 700 is 622mm, 27 uses a 630 rim, to the brake reach is
4mm less on a 27.
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Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)
On 8/15/2013 5:06 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Benz Hogs wrote:
700 is a touch bigger in diameter than the old 27.
I think Luther got that backwards.
Bead seat diameter on 700 is 622mm, 27 uses a 630 rim, to the brake
Luther wrote:
See this video for an idea of my fall fun :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWxuDZL_420
I didn't see your name at the end credits streaming? You gotta talk
to the video editor.
Where are the courses? Can we watch you race?
Looks like a lot more bike than my Chicago Schwinn.
Wanna watch me race? Here's the schedule. http://chicrosscup.com/schedule/
Does Schwinn have CX bikes? Not the drop bar style, just
flat-bar-hybrids that use mountain style brakes and can handle wider
tires. That'll get you tons of heckle. Probably not as much as my
baseball pants, but
Eh, your car analogy is orange to my apples. A wheel that needs the
equivalent of $5k of work is on the verge of catastrophic failure that
you can't ride home on. Spokes are loose and ready to break, your rim
has a crack in it, the hub has pitted bearings or blown seals, etc.
The way
i kinda like those 24x3 tires myself, but i understand how you might want
to go wider
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
Eh, your car analogy is orange to my apples. A wheel that needs the
equivalent of $5k of work is on the verge of catastrophic
700x25 is the new 23mm tire since research has shown that 25mm tires are
just as fast as a 23mm. One of my riding buddies is riding on 28mm
tubeless clincher tires and he claims they feel as fast and comfortable
as a 25mm tubular. Wheels and tires have come a LONG way in the last 2
years
28 is a huge rim, no? like you can run 2 inch wide tires or even bigger on
that
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
700x25 is the new 23mm tire since research has shown that 25mm tires are
just as fast as a 23mm. One of my riding buddies is riding on
You are correct that a 28mm rim is huge, good for a 29er. In my
case,28mm is the tire outside width, not the rim width. His rim is 23mm
to the outside of the braking surface, same that I'll have next month.
So the 700x25 is for the tire, not the rim.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98
25 is only like an inch wide then. or i'm missing something. like, ok,
the old 10 speed size from teh 70s was 27x1 1/4. how does that translate
to your 700x sizes?
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
You are correct that a 28mm rim is huge, good for a
700 is a touch bigger in diameter than the old 27. 1-1/4 is about 25%
wider than a 25mm tire. The off-road tires I'll be riding for the
Cyclocross season this fall are about the same width as the old 1-1/4
except that mine will have MTB stile knobs to help with cornering, sand,
and mud. See
Eventually = 500-2000mi, maybe in the first year as the metal ages.
Just because you're not a cyclist doesn't mean you're not stressing
the spokes. If you weren't stressing the spokes, you could ride a 20 or
24 spoke wheel :)
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi)
On
you miss my point. cyclists are a whole different breed and often are not
relevant to the experience of those who just ride bicycles to get from here
to there. if you are talking about something that happens in your 27th
100k if you happen to go over 25mph, it might now apply to me. so far the
I'm trying to say that the wheel is still going to be stressed if you're
going 12mph or 45mph like I was this weekend. Whether or not you
consider yourself a cyclist doesn't have that much bearing on the stress
on the spokes.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)
On
you still miss my point but you know a lot about bicycles so that makes you
ok by me :)
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
I'm trying to say that the wheel is still going to be stressed if you're
going 12mph or 45mph like I was this weekend. Whether or
So explain your point better :)
My point is stress is stress and the quality of the wheel build will
show up no mater which type of stress you put on the wheel.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)
On 8/13/2013 10:22 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
you still miss my point but
it's that what might be a problem for a serious cyclist might not be a
problem for someone who ride 30 miles a week at 8mph. what might fail for
you might be adequate for years for me.
it's like my mom's cracked up crappy daewoo. it needs $5k in work and
would still be a POS but it gets to the
If you're not breaking spokes due to power, you'll be ok with the normal
gauge as spokes are stressed mostly when you put power into the crank.
Weight generally only stresses the rim and hub as the spokes can
distribute the weight amongst themselves. Ask your 10 minute wheel
builder if he is
generally this is the sort of spoke that would be used . have no clue about
stretched or not
http://www.dtswiss.com/Components/Spokes/DT-competition-sup-®-sup
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
If you're not breaking spokes due to power, you'll be ok
I ride DT, they make very good spokes, as you would expect from the
Swiss. I don't believe they come pre-stretched, so they would need to
be stretched before building a wheel. If they're not stretched, they
will stretch in the wheel and eventually become loose.
Luther KB5QHUForest
when is eventually? i have a few hundred miles on this wheel and
everything seems in order
also, i'm a transportation rider and not a cyclist. i've always been just
a transportation rider. my tires are not 1 inch wide, but 2.35. i cannot
and would not assume the aerodynamic position, but
Gary
watch ebay
i drove a columbia bike for about 10 years when i was a kid in the
'60's (still have the bike in my father's basement) and although it's
robust and reliable, i'm not really a fan of them
Whenever you put on the brakes it shifts gears so you have to develop
a brake and
i always have to have rear wheels built due to my girth. first one i built
was a 48 spoke one like tandem wheel, but spaced at 135mm rather than 145.
external gears. the second was an ordinary 36 spoke hub but i used 12
gauge spokes instead of 14, with shimano nexus 3 speed hub and and a
i always have to have rear wheels built due to my girth. first one i
built
was a 48 spoke one like tandem wheel, but spaced at 135mm rather than 145.
external gears. the second was an ordinary 36 spoke hub but i used 12
gauge spokes instead of 14, with shimano nexus 3 speed hub and and a
100% correct the old archers are the way to go basically super cheap and east
to keep working
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On Aug 10, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote:
Gary
watch ebay
i drove a columbia bike for about 10 years when i was a kid in the '60's
(still
14 gauge are standard spokes. i am unconvinced that thicker spokes are
better, although worksman uses the very hefty 11 gauge
i use an old and legendary local bicycle mechanic, known around town as
bicycle bobby. he is the fastest technician i have ever seen in my
life. 30 dollars labor to
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