I kind of like 'The Balled of Ruben Clamso and his Strange Daughter in
the key of G'. For G that's a big clam, or maybe do it in C for I hope
he don't see me, or in F for he sees me,
Manfred
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:33:39 -0400
From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Curt Raymond wrote:
You'd be surprised to discover how many times those lyrics go thru my head
on my weekend motorcycle rides. Low and slow, sans helmet, 35 mph on an
isolated country two-lane blacktop. The deer move faster than I do -- and I
am the better for it. I can stop more quickly than they can (been there,
don
> restaurant with her husband Ray and Fouchia (sp?) the dog.
The flower? Fuchsia. I remember the spelling by mangling
the pronunciation of what it is that Alice doesn't do to ya.
-- Jim
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Curt Raymond wrote:
>
> Alice doesn't live in the restaurant, she lives in a church nearby the
> restaurant with her husband Ray and Fouchia (sp?) the dog.
I bet there's someplace on the net you can look up all 22 minutes of
the lyrics. But "I don't want a pickle, I just want to ride on my
motor-
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No, Alice doesn't live there anymore. (couldn't resist)
Zedic
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Hop growing, though profitable when it succeeds, is risky, with several
significant insect pests causing damage, including the European Corn Borer
Ostrinia nubilalis and the Hop froghopper Aphrophora interrupta. Hop
gardens on chalky soils are particularly subject to damage. In June and
July, the h
On Sat, 24 May 2008 17:20:45 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Since we are discussing plants, hop bines work well and hops is selling
> for over $40.00 / pound retail!
How does one develop a market for one's hops?
> I intend to - I have Cascade hops planted in my back yard.
ht
man in the heat question
Now that sounds interesting! Brew some, and sell the rest.
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since we are discussing plants, hop bines work well and hops is selling
for
> over $40.00 / pound retail!
>
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OK Don
Now that sounds interesting! Brew some, and sell the rest.
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since we are discussing plants, hop bines work well and hops is selling for
> over $40.00 / pound retail!
>
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Pecan trees work well also - and you can eat the pecans!
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Roof overhangs have to work so that you get shade in the summer and
>> sun in
Pecan trees work well also - and you can eat the pecans!
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Roof overhangs have to work so that you get shade in the summer and
>> sun in the winter. Either that or some other
>> means of shading the windows during the period o
On Fri, 23 May 2008 15:55:12 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've heard that if you go deep enough, temps equal the average
> annual surface temp.
Yes, that is true. Temperature fluctuations are moderated more the deeper
you go into the ground. Even one foot down moderates air temp
No, Alice doesn't live there anymore. (couldn't resist)
Zedic
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> Roof overhangs have to work so that you get shade in the summer and
> sun in the winter. Either that or some other
> means of shading the windows during the period of time that you do not
> need or want the heat.
Grape arbors work well. And you can even eat the grapes!
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Is it owned by Alice?
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You live in a restaurant?
>
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Norman, OK
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
-Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
'90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber),
and it has made me a believer in solar power. It gets hot in there on sunny
> days.
>
> Randy
>
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That's odd. Down here in Florida that's about all there is is limestone.
The rotary drills go through that real fast till they get to a flint
rock section where it may take two or three hours or more to go a foot.
One company was charging $1700 a hole of about 300'. I would need 3 of
them. The
ercarbs
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>
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>> We live in Connecticut. Bad health dro
I'm not exactly in the swamps down here in Alachua county so I guess
that's why I will need about 1200-1400' of coil 6' in the ground to do
the heat exchange. It will cost more to begin with but the projected
cost for heating cooling and hot water is about $700 a year. Course that
will be going
We used them when I was growing up in SW Oklahoma - they turned the
house into a swamp ---
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Rich Thomas
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> Uh, guys, look at that name "swamp cooler." How many swamps you been in
> that are dry? Downnair in Weeziana ova dere own da bayou
Uh, guys, look at that name "swamp cooler." How many swamps you been in
that are dry? Downnair in Weeziana ova dere own da bayou dem coonasses
used dem things yah boy.
--R
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:44 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Alex Chamberl
at exchanger once already.
>
>Randy
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>Grou
Actually, the building codes were redone statewide
after Andrew (?) leveled Miami. My house, which was
built in 1997 to current hurricane code, is rated to
withstand up to 150 mph winds, I believe.
They accomplish this by embedding rebar in the
foundation that ties all the way up through the bloc
I wasn't talking about FL. In the swamps there, you could still do
an earth berm w/o basement, but the geothermal a/c would probably be
a cheaper way to air condition and just a straight air/air
system. The tubes don't care if they are in swamp water. In fact,
you'd need less length of tubi
lready.
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>Randy
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>Ground water heat pumps wor
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Ground water heat pumps work, even in MI or Canyada, because rather
than relying on -20 outside air, they use ground temps, usually abo
Loren Faeth wrote:
> they use ground temps, usually about
> 54 degrees, and thus operate in the heat pump's efficiency range.
I've heard that if you go deep enough, temps equal the average
annual surface temp. I think 10-20' down keeps you around 40-50
degrees here in southern Michigan. Building
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Mitch Haley wrote:
> I'm living in a house with a lot of the glass facing west-southwest.
> On a sunny January afternoon, 20F outdoors translates into 76-78
If you did that here, in west central Florida, you
could potentially have issues with water tables.
Funny, as I have heard that there are homes in the
area with basements, but they've got to be few and far
between.
My house is 57 feet above sea level and not even in a
flood zone, so I'm wiling to
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> > We live in Connecticut. Bad health drove me to A/C our house last
> summer.
> > We put in a mini-sp
Ground water heat pumps work, even in MI or Canyada, because rather
than relying on -20 outside air, they use ground temps, usually about
54 degrees, and thus operate in the heat pump's efficiency range.
At 01:57 PM 5/23/2008, you wrote:
>LarryT wrote:
> >
> > Heat pumps are *very* efficient c
Mitch Haley wrote:
> I'm living in a house with a lot of the glass facing west-southwest.
> On a sunny January afternoon, 20F outdoors translates into 76-78F
> indoors.
That would equate to a $300 summer electric bill in my area!
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> With south facing windows for winter solar gain.
I'm living in a house with a lot of the glass facing west-southwest.
On a sunny January afternoon, 20F outdoors translates into 76-78F
indoors.
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Depends on how well you like mold. GA is humid. Humidity condenses
on cool surfaces, like walls of earth berm homes. In spite
Depends on how well you like mold. GA is humid. Humidity condenses
on cool surfaces, like walls of earth berm homes. In spite of the
problems, I still believe that earth berm/underground housing is achievable.
At 12:48 PM 5/23/2008, you wrote:
>i wonder why, however, particularly in the sout
t man in the heat question
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> summer is a different thing. it is not yet june, and i've already
> relented. i have the little lg window unit pumping full blast and a huge
> fan in front of blowing the col
in the heat question
i make it my policy to avoid home climate control. in fact, i lived through
the winter without firing up the furnace with no problems
summer is a different thing. it is not yet june, and i've already
relented. i have the little lg window unit pumping full blast and a
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> You win, I've never lived anywhere where it got very humid in the
> summer (thankfully).
It is currently 78% outside... ugh.
> Works well here (in the PNW) except in August.
They work great in Phoenix until the "monsoon" season starts in July. I
think they worked pret
LarryT wrote:
>
> Heat pumps are *very* efficient compared to oil
Heat pumps are about 3x as effective as electric resistance heaters.
This drops with evaporator temperature, by 17 degrees F the ratio
is about 1:1 (you put in a BTU of electricity, you get out a BTU of
heat). This is great for v
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:44 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>> Throw a damp (not dripping) towel over that fan, or better yet, hang
>> the towel from the ceiling with the last few inches submerged in a pan
>> of water. Instant swamp cooler!
>
> Not when the
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> Throw a damp (not dripping) towel over that fan, or better yet, hang
> the towel from the ceiling with the last few inches submerged in a pan
> of water. Instant swamp cooler!
Not when the RH is as high as it is in the south!!
John
That will be putting moisture into the air that he is trying to dry out.
So called swamp coolers are only somewhat useful in VERY dry ambient
conditions. Georgia has never been that dry!
Pete
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On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> summer is a different thing. it is not yet june, and i've already
> relented. i have the little lg window unit pumping full blast and a huge
> fan in front of blowing the cold air on me. it's pretty pathetic!
Throw a damp
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> We live in Connecticut. Bad health drove me to A/C our house last summer.
> We put in a mini-split with heat pump. I'm convinced the heat pump saved
> us 50% of our oil bill this wint
We live in Connecticut. Bad health drove me to A/C our house last summer. We
put in a mini-split with heat pump. I'm convinced the heat pump saved us 50%
of our oil bill this winter, I will be cross comparing with a neighbor in a
few weeks.
Pete
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i make it my policy to avoid home climate control. in fact, i lived through
the winter without firing up the furnace with no problems
summer is a different thing. it is not yet june, and i've already
relented. i have the little lg window unit pumping full blast and a huge
fan in front of blowin
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