Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

Transferring anything other than a purely mechanical motor is going to be a pain. You can do a hacked om648, which would be cool, but probably not cheap, as someone has to hack the engine controls. Look up Sound German Automotive on FB. He has it running in a 123 wagon with a 722.6. Cool, but not c

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

Naw, that's when the fun starts - if it was just "drop it in", it would be boring, everyone else would have done it already, no challenge, no bragging rights, etc. Any project worth doing needs problems to be solved and challenges to be overcome. From the guy who put an Olds V8 in an MGA and drove

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

yabbut, it is step 4 and beyond that gets dicey. Mitch Haley via Mercedes June 9, 2017 at 6:24 PM I suppose it depends on where the R107 crossmember is in comparison to the W140 crossmember. But if the 107 intrudes into the pan space 1" more than the 140, you're

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

> On June 9, 2017 at 7:15 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Sounds like I should steer clear of the M119 and keep looking for an M116. I suppose it depends on where the R107 crossmember is in comparison to the W140 crossmember. But if the 107 intrudes into the pan space 1" more th

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

Sounds like I should steer clear of the M119 and keep looking for an M116. The injection system on the M116 (and others) can get finicky. I thought maybe I could come up with a common rail system on a newer engine that would still bolt in. Oh well Back to looking for a 420SEL or 380SEL

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

In the W140 the M119 lower oil pan wraps around the crossmember. You have to unhook the motor mounts, lift the engine, and use a super low clearance ratchet to remove the inaccessible half of the pan bolts. http://www.homedepot.com/p/GearWrench-1-4-in-Drive-Micro-Driver-Set-35-Piece-85035/2046212

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

sure. If I could find a good and cheap M116, that would be ideal, but they seem to either be high mile or already crushed, or "including drugs" prices. M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes June 9, 2017 at 10:49 AM By odd coincidence, I have a W107 with an M117 nose t

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

Oil pan / cross member clearance also worth a few pix. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, with a tape measure or such to determine the width difference. > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes < > merced

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

Yes, with a tape measure or such to determine the width difference. On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > By odd coincidence, I have a W107 with an M117 nose to nose with a W210 > with an M119. Want comparison photos? > > -MMM- > > --

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

By odd coincidence, I have a W107 with an M117 nose to nose with a W210 with an M119. Want comparison photos? -MMM- On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > R107 > > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> June 9, 2017

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

R107 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes June 9, 2017 at 7:19 AM So you are talking about using the 119 in place of a 116? In what car? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] m117 vs M119

So you are talking about using the 119 in place of a 116? In what car? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2017, at 11:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Part of the answer: > > The M119 differed from the M117 in the following ways: > > The engine block uses asbestos-free gaskets and

[MBZ] m117 vs M119

Part of the answer: The M119 differed from the M117 in the following ways: The engine block uses asbestos-free gaskets and has better oil flow The cylinder head is now a 4-valve aluminum unit with dual overhead camshafts So, if a M117 was shoe-horned in, the bigger heads of a M119 may not fi