Get about 6ft of vacuum line, put it on the shutoff hose fitting, run it
inside the car and when you want to shut it off just suck on it a bit.
Easier than replacing the vac pump or whatever in the cold!
--R
On 3/10/2010 1:54 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:15 -0600, "Peter Fr
10, 2010 2:08:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nails in the coffin
Yeahbut you could shift to neutral, stop, then pop hood etc., assuming
the engine didn't grenade.
-Max
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:15 -0600, "Peter Frederick"
wrote:
> Basic safety engineering would require that the driver be able to shut
> the engine off regardless of what the computer decides
There was a period of time where I could
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:15 -0600, "Peter Frederick" wrote:
> Basic safety engineering would require that the driver be able to shut
> the engine off regardless of what the computer decides
There was a period of time where I could not shut off my OM617 without
getting out of the car, opening the h
st in case.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:23:38 -0500
From: "Steve"
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Yes!
That "trick" works well with a W210.025 (drive by wire), but I cannot
vouch for newer stuff.
It makes it easier to hold a line as you pull through curves... And
you don't throw people around as much.
It is the one place you can expose even a slight punt of turbo lag.
It adversely aff
Use a solenoid with a PWM signal input (working against a spring) as
the accelerator servo.
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On Mar 9, 2010, at 23:15, Peter Frederick wrote:
Basic safety engineering would require that the driver be able to
shut
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Mitch Haley
> wrote:
> > Mercedes drive by wire cars close the throttle when you
> > touch the brakes. (which introduces other problems...)
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
> I know Mercedes sells few if any manual transmission cars here
> (I mean real manuals with
Basic safety engineering would require that the driver be able to
shut the engine off regardless of what the computer decides, and this
is what I would do:
Mechanical switch that cuts both power AND ground to the CPU, and
separately power AND ground to the servo drives. This will prevent a
Why do drivers continue to drive when this happens instead of shutting
off the vehicle (without locking the wheel) and then pulling over?
Because the shutoff is also computer controlled, and if it's
giving you the stink eye already you may well not be able to
change its mind.
Shoddy engineering
My '51 VW bug had a drive-by-wire accelerator - and the wire broke several
times, but it defaulted to idle, not full throttle ---
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Steve wrote:
> I know my 87 300d was drive-by-zip-tie when I broke the linkage one time...
>
> Steve
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I know my 87 300d was drive-by-zip-tie when I broke the linkage one time...
Steve
Are the new Mercedes as heavily drive-by-wire as Toyota and the others?
Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D
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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nails in the coffin
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:53 AM, R A Bennell wrote:
I read this morning that insurance companies are raisi
It is still possible to wind the engine up against the brakes for some
tire chirping fun, at least it is on the w210.025's
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On Mar 9, 2010, at 14:00, Mitch Haley wrote:
Curt Raymond wrote:
Yeahbut http://www.ksdk.
ly when I get home...
Mike
From: Rich Thomas
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 11:57:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nails in the coffin
There was a scare story on the radio this morning about a Pious that
unintendedly accelerated in Collyfawnya AFT
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought the Airbus has NO physical controls systems, ONLY fly by wire.
> Have all the reports been wrong?
>
No, they haven't---hence the recent reports of Airbuses crashing
because of computer problems!
I am sure that o
I thought the Airbus has NO physical controls systems, ONLY fly by
wire. Have all the reports been wrong?
New cars need redundant physical control systems for safety, just like
fly-by-wire aircraft have.
Alex
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On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Mercedes drive by wire cars close the throttle when you touch the brakes.
> (which introduces other problems...)
>
I know Mercedes sells few if any manual transmission cars here (I mean
real manuals with a stick and a clutch, not dual-clutch a
Curt Raymond wrote:
Yeahbut http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=197501&catid=3
Toyota counters this could happen on ALL drive by wire cars...
Toyota has been caught in many lies about this, and has ignored several court
orders to produce crash data records from the car's computer
:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael LaFleur
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The Prius owner took his car to the dealer and was told it was NOT on the
recall lis
Yeahbut http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=197501&catid=3
Toyota counters this could happen on ALL drive by wire cars...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:18:56 -0600
From: "R A Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nails in the coffin
M
BZZZTTT!
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/03/09/second-gen-prius-involved-in-unintended-acceleration-incident-in/
Prii are not involved in the unintended acceleration recall.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:57:03 -0500
From: Rich Thomas
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nails in
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:53 AM, R A Bennell wrote:
> I read this morning that insurance companies are raising rates on Toyotas,
> and that Consumer Reports is not
> recommending Toyotas.
>
> That should just about do them in
Somebody mentioned shorting Toyota, but it looks like the market
alread
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> I think there should be a law requiring all cars to have a keyswitch that
> you rotate clockwise to start the car and counterclockwise to stop, and all
> engine functions cease when you rotate it counterclockwise.
>
Agreed. Said switch (or at
Michael LaFleur wrote:
Why do drivers continue to drive when this happens instead of shutting off the vehicle
If you have a stop button, it's hard to hold your thumb down on it for 4-5
seconds straight while battling HAL for control of the car (assuming that HAL is
willing to shut off the eng
) and then pulling over?
I'm going to have to educate my family when I get home...
Mike
From: Rich Thomas
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 11:57:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nails in the coffin
There was a scare story on the radio this morni
amily when I get home...
Mike
From: Rich Thomas
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 11:57:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nails in the coffin
There was a scare story on the radio this morning about a Pious that
unintendedly accelerated in Collyf
nk we have seen
the end of this yet. Don't stand in
front of any Toyotas.
Randy
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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:57 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] na
There was a scare story on the radio this morning about a Pious that
unintendedly accelerated in Collyfawnya AFTER having the fix, was up to
90mph, a cop was following the guy and got in front of it to stop it
until the guy could somehow shut it off. I guess with those things, the
brakes, engi
I read this morning that insurance companies are raising rates on Toyotas, and
that Consumer Reports is not
recommending Toyotas.
That should just about do them in since their primary customers were the sort
of middle class smucks who bought
them because CR said they should and they just knew th
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