still do; most commonly seen on trucks, SUVs, etc.
IMO, the funkiest of these is the 16.5" rim. ;-)
cheers!
e
Fmiser wrote:
It seems than at Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:20:28 -0500, Wilton wrote:
What tire sizing system does the rest of the world outside of
North America use? Surely, they d
It seems than at Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:20:28 -0500, Wilton wrote:
> What tire sizing system does the rest of the world outside of
> North America use? Surely, they don't use this crazy,
> American system of mixing metric and English measurements to
> denote tire sizes, do they?
The US used to use a
It seems than at Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:43:34 -0600, Tom wrote:
> Craig McCluskey wrote:
>
> >> [I sense the start of a new "oil" thread.]
> >
> > No, I don't think so. Everyone else is saying the same thing.
>
> Okay, how about an "ambient temperature vs wind chill" thread
> instead? First week o
Thanks, Mitch. Think I'll get her the Michelins.
Gerry
Archer wrote:
Granddaughter lives in Winston-Salem, NC. and needs tires for her '05
Honda Civic which grandpa is going to buy her as a Xmas present..
-
$18 a gallon last time we purchased some.
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
how much is it?
Luther wrote:
We buy it direct from the distributor. Much cheaper that way. We're
planning an order soon, do you want some?
Luther
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
so tell me about this BG again, and where I can g
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:14:23 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> how much is it?
For those of us not in the know, what's it good for?
Craig
> Luther wrote:
> > We buy it direct from the distributor. Much cheaper that way. We're
> > planning an order soon, do you want s
how much is it?
Luther wrote:
We buy it direct from the distributor. Much cheaper that way. We're
planning an order soon, do you want some?
Luther
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
so tell me about this BG again, and where I can get it.
Luther wrote:
Or BG, it's cheaper :)
Luther
-
Archer wrote:
Granddaughter lives in Winston-Salem, NC. and needs tires for her '05
Honda Civic which grandpa is going to buy her as a Xmas present..
What size, 195/60-15?
http://tinyurl.com/6e83g8
Click on "survey results" for each tire, try to get one that's all green.
In the all season gr
Granddaughter lives in Winston-Salem, NC. and needs tires for her '05 Honda
Civic which grandpa is going to buy her as a Xmas present.. Consumers
Reports tests show that Michelin HydroEdge tires have the best combination
of wet road, ice, and snow driving characteristics.
All comments, critici
Same system in Greece
--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] wrong size tires
To: "mercedes"
Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 2:20 PM
What tire sizing system does the rest of the world ou
We buy it direct from the distributor. Much cheaper that way. We're
planning an order soon, do you want some?
Luther
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
so tell me about this BG again, and where I can get it.
Luther wrote:
Or BG, it's cheaper :)
Luther
--
Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL
gt;
> HOT HUMID summers? In Toronto? 'All relative, isn't it? ;<)
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:32 PM
> Subjec
HOT HUMID summers? In Toronto? 'All relative, isn't it? ;<)
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
> Si
Since getting the benz a couple of years ago now, I've been using Shell
Rotella with pretty good results. What made me decide to use it was the
higher levels of zink. The car gets a lot of city driving, and it has a lot
of miles, so I change quite often. I can never to find the deals on Mobil 1
so tell me about this BG again, and where I can get it.
Luther wrote:
Or BG, it's cheaper :)
Luther
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92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D
I dont usually spend the money on M1 anyway because I never keep the
long enough to enjoy the extended drain on them.
OK Don wrote:
Not if you don't drive them which is most of yours
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Its getting cold, do I
Or BG, it's cheaper :)
Luther
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Its getting cold, do I need to use Mobile 1 in all my cars?
Luther wrote:
Now that we have thoroughly beat this tire thread to death, anyone
want to start an oil thread? :D
Luther
Wonko the Sane wrote:
I am used to it. My parents said
Not if you don't drive them which is most of yours
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Its getting cold, do I need to use Mobile 1 in all my cars?
>
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and
mo
Its getting cold, do I need to use Mobile 1 in all my cars?
Luther wrote:
Now that we have thoroughly beat this tire thread to death, anyone want
to start an oil thread? :D
Luther
Wonko the Sane wrote:
I am used to it. My parents said I was stubborn. I always assumed I
was the
only one who s
Now that we have thoroughly beat this tire thread to death, anyone want
to start an oil thread? :D
Luther
Wonko the Sane wrote:
I am used to it. My parents said I was stubborn. I always assumed I was the
only one who saw the reality others couldn't see, sort of like Thoreau. I am
sometimes sti
Without, I should say a "presumed to be working block heater" I probably should
try it before it gets any colder...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:52:38 -0600
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
To: Mercedes Discussion
well one is whole for sure, not sure about the other one yet, have not
decided to buy it yet.
E M wrote:
does this mean you're now supplying W140 parts, or are you keeping them
whole.
Ed
300E
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
89 300E,
does this mean you're now supplying W140 parts, or are you keeping them
whole.
Ed
300E
2008/12/5 Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> hey, I got one of them, maybe 2 soon.
>
> Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>
>> Then there is the fancy crowd with big W140 S class limos out the back.
>>
>> Hendrik
>> wi
That's the type of info I was looking for. Thanks.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "ernest breakfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
> since my
;Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
> Yes they do, not sure how it came about but I suspect back in the good
> old days it was all imperial (die Englishers) and all metric (die
> Europeans) but then the two came together a
next time you are up, I wont let you drive my 140 diesel. Afterward,
you will find a 124 diesel to seem like a POS (except for the superior
fuel mileage thing).
OK Don wrote:
No, I haven't, and don't bring one down - I don't need something to
start the lust again. I've got my brace of 2.5 tur
No, I haven't, and don't bring one down - I don't need something to
start the lust again. I've got my brace of 2.5 turbos, and I'm happy
for now ---
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you have never had one, you cant begin to know how wonderful they r
If you have never had one, you cant begin to know how wonderful they
ride and drive. Yes, they do have alot of gadgets but I have never
really had too much trouble with the ones I have had.
OK Don wrote:
The 140's. They sound like no end of trouble, and aren't 124s.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:
The 140's. They sound like no end of trouble, and aren't 124s.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> for what?
>
> OK Don wrote:
>>
>> My condolences!
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and
mountaineerin
Yes they do, not sure how it came about but I suspect back in the good
old days it was all imperial (die Englishers) and all metric (die
Europeans) but then the two came together as the car market became
global. Rims stayed imperial and the width became metric, which made
life easier because th
for what?
OK Don wrote:
My condolences!
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hey, I got one of them, maybe 2 soon.
Hendrik & Fay wrote:
Then there is the fancy crowd with big W140 S class limos out the back.
My condolences!
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hey, I got one of them, maybe 2 soon.
>
> Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>>
>> Then there is the fancy crowd with big W140 S class limos out the back.
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"There are only three sports:
hey, I got one of them, maybe 2 soon.
Hendrik & Fay wrote:
Then there is the fancy crowd with big W140 S class limos out the back.
Hendrik
with both 123 and 124
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Only the losers do. The rest of us cheap skates has moved up to 124's
Then there is the fancy crowd with big W140 S class limos out the back.
Hendrik
with both 123 and 124
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Only the losers do. The rest of us cheap skates has moved up to 124's
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up and clue us in as to what and where it is.
cheers!
e
Wilton Strickland wrote:
Especially those exported to NA?
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "ernest breakfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, Dece
TRX was supposed to replace it with an all metric system but never caught on.
On 12/5/08, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> firstly, let's acknowledge that just because it's used in North America
> doesn't make it an "American system",... ;-)
>
> judging by the fact that most
Especially those exported to NA?
Wilton
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From: "ernest breakfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
> firstly, let's acknowledge th
firstly, let's acknowledge that just because it's used in North America
doesn't make it an "American system",... ;-)
judging by the fact that most all auto mfrs wheel diameters i can
recall having seen (including all our MBZs) seem to be sized in inches,
i'm guessing it's a pretty good ch
lf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:45 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
Only the losers do. The rest of us cheap skates has moved up to 124's
Tom Savage wrote:
> Craig McCluskey wrote:
>
>>> [I sense the start of a new &
was that with or without it being plugged in?
Curt Raymond wrote:
My '83 240D started perfectly this morning at 15F with CONVENTIONAL (Delvac
1300) oil in it. I'm not going to put M1 in that car as it leaks a quart in 800
miles and has a working block heater...
Bounced it against maximum velo
Only the losers do. The rest of us cheap skates has moved up to 124's
Tom Savage wrote:
Craig McCluskey wrote:
[I sense the start of a new "oil" thread.]
No, I don't think so. Everyone else is saying the same thing.
Okay, how about an "ambient temperature vs wind chill" thread instead?
F
Agreed
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
> Wilton Strickland wrote:
> > So is the HU16E basically t
Wilton Strickland wrote:
So is the HU16E basically the same as SA-16? Are bofum called "Albatross?"
So, basically, there was a running "fix" with Loran, and "home" was ALWAYS
west?
If you're in a whirlybird, dirt = home. If you're on the eastern seaboard, west
= dirt.
Mitch.
_
What tire sizing system does the rest of the world outside of North America
use? Surely, they don't use this crazy, American system of mixing metric
and English measurements to denote tire sizes, do they?
Wilton
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ercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
> I have never been in an SA-16. The USAF flew those. But I had 1500+ hours
in
> the beloved HU16E.
>
> We didn't need no stinkin' air speed stuff once we left the runw
at.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:43:34 -0600
From: Tom Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Craig McCluskey wrote:
>> [I s
I never did but several friends did.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So, how many times did you come home dead?
>
> Mitch.
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Wonko the Sane wrote:
And this was all Loran A, a chart, and a mile wide grease pencil. A guy in
his early 20s held the grease pencil. But we almost always came home alive.
Almost.
So, how many times did you come home dead?
Mitch.
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Very good.
Rim is a measurement
Width is a measurement
Aspect Ratio is just a percentage of the width.
I missed the beginning of this thread, how did this all start? Just refer
to your manual and buy what the car came with. Unless you're changing rim
sizes, or messing with other things, just st
No, a very wide tire can have a very short sidewall, it just wouldn't be
called a 65, more likely a 45, or, what are some of the really low ones
now?? 30? That's when the tire is pretty much painted on the rim. hee hee
Ed
300E
2008/12/4 Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Your explanation see
I have never been in an SA-16. The USAF flew those. But I had 1500+ hours in
the beloved HU16E.
We didn't need no stinkin' air speed stuff once we left the runway, because
Petty Officer Don (then) was sitting in the nav position running Loran-A and
could give a DR of how fast we were going.
But .
onvert it to true ground speed and leave the
speedometer alone. If it's reading fast, it may keep SWMBO from getting a
ticket.
Wilton
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From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, December 0
It will be close enough for Iowa. I wouldn't even care were it not for the
fact that I am so damn'd anal about stuff like this.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ernest breakfield <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> except that you won't be able to "adjust" the speedo needle, because it's
> going to be
I do. And it is tucked into the garage, Battery Tender keeping things warm,
waiting for spring. I am looking forward to NOT driving a 240D this winter.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Tom Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Craig McCluskey wrote:
>
> [I sense the start of a new "oil" thread.]
>
except that you won't be able to "adjust" the speedo needle, because
it's going to be off by a *percentage*, not a fixed number. for example,
that might mean 2 MPH off at an indicated 25, 4 MPH at an indicated 50,
and 6 MPH off at an indicated 75.
cheers!
e
Wonko the Sane wrote:
I am used
Craig McCluskey wrote:
[I sense the start of a new "oil" thread.]
No, I don't think so. Everyone else is saying the same thing.
Okay, how about an "ambient temperature vs wind chill" thread instead?
First week of December and it still hasn't come up. I guess no one
drives 123s anymore.
I am used to it. My parents said I was stubborn. I always assumed I was the
only one who saw the reality others couldn't see, sort of like Thoreau. I am
sometimes still like that.
The fact is that it isn't that big of a deal. I will just see what true
speed is on my GPS and adjust the needle accor
maybe this explanation will help you grasp the concept: it's pretty
clearly laid out here:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=7&;
you need to get the idea that the '65' is a measurement out of your
head; it's a *ratio*, not a fixed measurement.
per the Tire Rack s
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:12:33 -0600 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I am having a difficult time convincing myself that a 65 isn't a 65, no
> matter how wide the tire is. Just because the tire is wider, it
> shouldn't necessarily be taller.
It's because the 65 is NOT the SAME TYPE of
Hey, I never claimed it was LOGICAL - just that it is CORRECT! Your
jury of one is definately OUT!
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your explanation seemed illogical so I looked for a second opinion. Seems
> the jury is still out.
>
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
No
65% of 205 (133.25) is taller than 65% of 195 (126.75), and that is a
physical and mathematical fact.
Wilton
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From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject:
Wonko the Sane wrote:
Your explanation seemed illogical so I looked for a second opinion. Seems
the jury is still out.
Seems like you're the only one not agreeing with all the rest of us.
I am having a difficult time convincing myself that a 65 isn't a 65, no
matter how wide the tire is. Jus
Your explanation seemed illogical so I looked for a second opinion. Seems
the jury is still out.
I am having a difficult time convincing myself that a 65 isn't a 65, no
matter how wide the tire is. Just because the tire is wider, it shouldn't
necessarily be taller.
[I sense the start of a new "oi
I told you about this the last time we discussed tire size - pay
attention this time.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will just buy 195s next time. :-)
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> "Tall/height
My understand, the aspect ration is expressed in a percentage of the width
of the tire (sidewall to sidewall, not tread width).
So you got it right, the 65 is the wall "height", it's just represented as a
percent of the width, not a number to indicate a size in itself, if that
makes sense. ie, a 6
Oops. Calculator didn't make it through to the list.
Wilton
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From: "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
> "Ta
into the attached calculator.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
>
>
>
Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wrong size tires
> Ok, someone educate me here. Thought I had this sorted out on the tirerack
> web site today, as follows:
>
> 205 ... how wide the tire is
> 65 ... how tall the tire is
> 15
Wonko the Sane wrote:
Why would a 205/65 and a 195/65 be any different at the speedometer?
205 is 205mm wide, 65 means 65% as tall as it is wide, so
205*.65*2/25.4+15=25.5"
195*.65*2/25.4+15=25.0"
Mitch.
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the '65' in your example is the Aspect Ratio; that represents the height
of the tire, as a *percentage* of its width.
so, 65% of 205 is going to be taller than 65% of 195,...
cheers!
e
Wonko the Sane wrote:
Ok, someone educate me here. Thought I had this sorted out on the tirerack
web sit
This is aspect ratio, meaning that the height from rim to tread is 65% of
the tread width.
Don't ask me why.
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 06:03:18PM -0600, Wonko the Sane wrote:
> 65 ... how tall the tire is
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Ok, someone educate me here. Thought I had this sorted out on the tirerack
web site today, as follows:
205 ... how wide the tire is
65 ... how tall the tire is
15 ... the diameter of the rim
Why would a 205/65 and a 195/65 be any different at the speedometer?
Where's Marshall when you need him.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well ... forget everything I said. That will teach me to do tire sizes from
> memory.
>
> The 300E has Michelin X-One tires of the size 205/65R15, so they are not the
> wrong size.
Yes they are. Should be 205/60 or 195/6
Well ... forget everything I said. That will teach me to do tire sizes from
memory.
The 300E has Michelin X-One tires of the size 205/65R15, so they are not the
wrong size.
I must have been thinking of what's my 240D, which are indeed 195/70R14
Regatta 2s.
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Craig
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:37:08 -0600 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It is different in Iowa -- we are further east than you are. In Maine,
> it would have been a 10 mph difference due to the rotation of the earth.
Interesting theory. I wonder how the physics works out ...
Craig
>
It is different in Iowa -- we are further east than you are. In Maine, it
would have been a 10 mph difference due to the rotation of the earth.
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:47 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...Figured out why the speedo on the 300E is off by 5 mph (you are going
> 5
> > mph
> > f
> ...Figured out why the speedo on the 300E is off by 5 mph (you are going 5
> mph
> faster than what the speedo shows, as checked with GPS). The "book" calls
> for 195/65/15 and the tires on the car are 195/70/15...
>
Which calculates out to a 3.1% difference and a 24.6 revs per mile
difference
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