Re: Mersenne: The sound of number searching

1999-07-22 Thread Jeff Woods
I have seen this before, on one particular machine. The sound does appear to come directly from the CPU. It isn't harmful as far as I can tell -- that same CPU has been testing for three years now, and continues to chug along It only tends to happen on slower, older Pentiums, from what

Mersenne: Computing noises; was Worth it?

1999-07-22 Thread Pierre Abbat
(Off topic, when I computed that value in Landon's Calc program, my computer PII/233 started making a weird humming noise. The noise stopped when the calculation finished. Very strange indeed...) I'm running Prime95 on a computer at the office, and it emits faint cricketish noises from the

Mersenne: Re: Allocation of Prize Fund

1999-07-22 Thread Gordon Spence
I have watched with interest the ideas flowing around for the distribution of the prize money awarded by the EFF and how we should try and reach an equitable distribution. In fact the answer is simple, the person who discovers it is *entitled* to it, end of story. I would hope that they would

Mersenne: Squaring algorithm...

1999-07-22 Thread Blosser, Jeremy
Just was thinking the other day about this... Forgive me if its been discussed before etc. Aren't there other "better" algorithms for finding the square of a number besides using an FFT? Sure an FFT is great for multiplying two different numbers, but for squaring a number isn't the case a little

RE: Mersenne: The sound of number searching

1999-07-22 Thread Hoogendoorn, Sander
Read the archives, this has been discussed 2 or 3 times before -Original Message- From: burlington john [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 19:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mersenne: The sound of number searching Hello Mersenne, Sorry for bad english its

Re: Mersenne: Re: Allocation of Prize Fund

1999-07-22 Thread Glenn McLaren
In fact the answer is simple, the person who discovers it is *entitled* to it, end of story. I agree with Gordon. We need to get *real* here. Theres nothing like money to attract people to the search. I wouldn't mind betting that a large percentage of seti@home people would start searching for

Re: Mersenne: Squaring algorithm...

1999-07-22 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Blosser, Jeremy wrote: Just was thinking the other day about this... Forgive me if its been discussed before etc. Aren't there other "better" algorithms for finding the square of a number besides using an FFT? Sure an FFT is great for multiplying two different numbers,

RE: Mersenne: The sound of number searching

1999-07-22 Thread Willmore, David
All, There are several things in a computer which will have their operational parameters vary with CPU activity. The most likely ones are: audio subsystem receiving noise coupled either directly (magnetically) into its signal lines or via its power feed; or the load on the power regulation unit

RE: Mersenne: Squaring algorithm...

1999-07-22 Thread Blosser, Jeremy
Ya, I didn't think *that* part through. :) When n=p (the LL test case with the size of the FFT and other things thrown in) as opposed to n=2^p (my case), then things are a *lot* different. -Original Message- From: Lucas Wiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999

RE: Mersenne: The sound of number searching

1999-07-22 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On 22 Jul 99, at 15:24, Willmore, David wrote: There are several things in a computer which will have their operational parameters vary with CPU activity. The most likely ones are: audio subsystem receiving noise coupled either directly (magnetically) into its signal lines or via its power

RE: Mersenne: The sound of number searching

1999-07-22 Thread Luke Welsh
At 11:35 PM 7/22/99 +0100, Brian J. Beesley wrote: Back more or less to topic - Oh, this is very much on topic! when I was a computing neophyte, a quarter of a century ago, I was told a story by an engineer working for a major mainframe supplier. For a laugh, the development team wired up

Re: Mersenne: Squaring algorithm...

1999-07-22 Thread Ken Kriesel
Assuming you're talking about doing it on a conventional computer (1 or few processors, fixed word length, etc.), the method you propose is at least O(2^p * p ) per squaring. This is dominated by the first exponential term, which must be avoided at all costs. Huge constant factors can be