Mersenne: LL and Pollar-rho in one?

1999-10-28 Thread Alexander Kruppa
Hi, the Lucas-Lehmer iteration L_0 = 4 L_{n+1} = L_n ^2 -2 looks suspiciously like an iteration used in Pollard-Rho: x_0 = a x_{n+1} = x_n ^2 +b Can this be used to do a LL test and Pollard-rho factoring attempt at once? I remember faintly having read something that b=-2 is not a good choice

Re: Mersenne: Trial-factorers

1999-10-28 Thread Alexander Kruppa
Eric Hahn wrote: I'm looking for program(s) capable of trial-factoring prime exponent Mersenne numbers (using 2kp+1) meeting the following requirements: [factors and exponents of arbitrary size] mersfacgmp from the Will Edgingtons mers package uses gmp's mpz type for factors (thus the

Mersenne: Trial-factorers

1999-10-28 Thread Will Edgington
Eric Hahn writes: I'm looking for program(s) capable of trial-factoring prime exponent Mersenne numbers (using 2kp+1) meeting the following requirements: 1) Capable of trial-factoring any exponent 1 (at least to some considerably large number, say 1 trillion?) If

Mersenne: Quiet

1999-10-28 Thread Lars Lindley
I think it's about time we find a new prime... The list is so quiet now. :) /Lars _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers

Re: Mersenne: LL and Pollar-rho in one?

1999-10-28 Thread Alexander Kruppa
Jason Stratos Papadopoulos wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Alexander Kruppa wrote: Hi, the Lucas-Lehmer iteration [...] looks suspiciously like an iteration used in Pollard-Rho: [...] Can this be used to do a LL test and Pollard-rho factoring attempt at once? Except that every

Re: Mersenne: LL and Pollard-rho in one?

1999-10-28 Thread Peter-Lawrence . Montgomery
Alexander Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] observes: Hi, the Lucas-Lehmer iteration L_0 = 4 L_{n+1} = L_n ^2 -2 looks suspiciously like an iteration used in Pollard-Rho: x_0 = a x_{n+1} = x_n ^2 +b Can this be used to do a LL test and Pollard-rho factoring attempt at once? I remember

Re: Mersenne: LL and Pollard-rho in one?

1999-10-28 Thread chris_nash
but doing the Pollard-Rho along a LL test would not be particularly efficient, anyways. Or particularly successful. Remember Pollard-rho heuristically expects to find a factor p in something along the lines of sqrt(p) iterations. Since we're doing lets call it 10^7 iterations, you'd

Mersenne: Re: Quiet

1999-10-28 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 05:12:46PM +0200, Lars Lindley wrote: I think it's about time we find a new prime... The list is so quiet now. I'm working on it! ;-) I think a quiet list is better than a list in rage -- don't try to start a poaching war again, please... The list isn't that quiet

Mersenne: GrOGfest '99 reminder

1999-10-28 Thread EWMAYER
Dear All: Just a friendly reminder that the second not-quite annual Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search OktoberGeekfest get-together-kind-of-deal is set for tomorrow evening. What: GrOGfest '99 Where: Tied House, Mountain View, California USA When: Friday, 28. October, beginning at 6:30 pm PDT

Mersenne: Re: fast GCD

1999-10-28 Thread EWMAYER
Alex Kruppa wrote: Can this be used to do a LL test and Pollard-rho factoring attempt at once? Jason Papadopoulos wrote: Except that every once in a while you'd have to perform a GCD, and a GCD on million-digit size numbers takes about a day (no kidding! There seems to be no fast way to

Mersenne Digest V1 #653

1999-10-28 Thread Mersenne Digest
Mersenne Digest Thursday, October 28 1999 Volume 01 : Number 653 -- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:18:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Darxus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: mprime startup at boot-time On Thu, 21 Oct

Re: Mersenne: GrOGfest '99 reminder

1999-10-28 Thread Spike Jones
But if I were to be sprayed with beer by Knuth I would consider it the greatest day of my life! If I were to see him I fear I would fall prostrate upon the earth, crying "Im unworthy! I sck!" {8^D spike (: .oot gniddik m'I) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to invite Don Knuth,

Mersenne: PrimeDC.exe (was Crazy thought of the day...)

1999-10-28 Thread Glenn
"Blosser, Jeremy" wrote: Seeing as how the Sega Dreamcast was officially released here in the U.S. today... and the list has been REALLY quiet (due to school starting?), I looked at the specs... and sure 'nuff, apparently, the Hitachi SH4 can do 2 FPU ops per cycle (single or double

Mersenne: Updated web pages; new factor counts percentages

1999-10-28 Thread Will Edgington
I've updated my web pages Yet Again, including adding some quick links at the top of mersenne.html to the other Mersenne related files on my web site. The 1stfacnt.txt file is gone; I've split it into facntHU.txt (for incompletely factored Mersennes) and facntD.txt (for completely factored