Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Wilhelm Sanke wrote: Unless, of course, the whole thing will be resolved by the Rev team in a different way other than Oliver's workaround. It might be a good idea to wait and see what happens before we put a lot of work into revising the MC IDE. RR version 4 is still changing. -- Jacquelin

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-09 Thread Klaus on-rev
ot;. I tried to explain in my last post how Oliver Kenyon's solution to bug 2217 might work with the patched stack "RevStandaloneSettings" and the new custom property (introduced as a workaround by Oliver), namely "cREVKeepDevelopmentProperties". If this property i

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-09 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
ed to explain in my last post how Oliver Kenyon's solution to bug 2217 might work with the patched stack "RevStandaloneSettings" and the new custom property (introduced as a workaround by Oliver), namely "cREVKeepDevelopmentProperties". If this property is *not* set to true, the

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-09 Thread Klaus on-rev
t using the file "Standalone" as it was necessary before When you remove file "Standalone" from the "Runtime" folder - or delete it completely - this has no longer an effect on standalone building. Hope this is correct and helps? Hmmm, are you sure, that the

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-09 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
is no longer needed or used. The command "Save as Standalone Application" in Menu "File" of the Rev IDE is then sent directly to the Rev engine to build the standalone - without using the file "Standalone" as it was necessary before When you remove file "Stan

Re: Standalone Building: cREVKeepDevelopmentProperties

2009-10-09 Thread Hugh Senior
> For the Metacard IDE this could mean that we integrate command "set > the cREVKeepDevelopmentProperties of this stack to true" into our > Standalone Builder - possibly in form of a checkbox button - with > the default setting to true. Why on earth should anyone want to set "cREVKeepDevelopmentPr

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-09 Thread Klaus on-rev
al command "set the cREVKeepDevelopmentProperties of this stack to true". Standalone building in the Rev IDE with these changes is now nearly as fast as in the MC IDE. The option of decreasing stack size by removing development properties added by the Rev IDE could and should

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-08 Thread Tereza Snyder
On Oct 8, 2009, at 2:16 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: The full sentence in which RunRev's Oliver Kenyon suggested the need for an engine change is worth noting: To fix the issue, we will need to make an engine change, possibly the addition of a "repeat for each control"

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-08 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
;set the cREVKeepDevelopmentProperties of this stack to true". Standalone building in the Rev IDE with these changes is now nearly as fast as in the MC IDE. The option of decreasing stack size by removing development properties added by the Rev IDE could and should IMO be implemented in the

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: The full sentence in which RunRev's Oliver Kenyon suggested the need for an engine change is worth noting: To fix the issue, we will need to make an engine change, possibly the addition of a "repeat for each control" loop form. So rather than something irritating, it

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wilhelm Sanke wrote: What irritates me is that they speak of a necessary change to the *engine*, which kind of engine is involved her? What does "(ide) engine" mean, which - according to the engine-change log - will implement the standalone building in dp4 and in the future. If this

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-08 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
nge to the *engine*, which kind of engine is involved her? What does "(ide) engine" mean, which - according to the engine-change log - will implement the standalone building in dp4 and in the future. If this engine is identical to the Revolution engine, then we - as MC-IDE users -

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Hugh Senior wrote: IF the new standAlone builder forces the inclusion of spurious "development properties" to each control, I for one shall not be upgrading. Klaus answered: "As far as I know this is NOT part of the process of building the standalone but a scripted Rev IDE only thingie!" AF

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
Hugh Senior wrote: This is good. The less, the better. Or as my husband says, "The less, the more". :) I agree with you. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-08 Thread Hugh Senior
> IF the new standAlone builder forces the inclusion of spurious "development > properties" to each control, I for one shall not be upgrading. Klaus answered: "As far as I know this is NOT part of the process of building the standalone but a scripted Rev IDE only thingie!" Jacqueline answered: "R

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-07 Thread Monte Goulding
rote: Another additional remark: I just looked at Bug report 2217 which I sent on Sept 20, 2004, five years ago. Report #2217 "New troubles with standalone building and players for multi-fields stacks" is still labeled as "new" A last commentary from my side had been added

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Hugh Senior wrote: Wilhelm: IF the new standAlone builder forces the inclusion of spurious "development properties" to each control, I for one shall not be upgrading. Rev doesn't add development properties during the build (unless you choose to include libraries), it just checks each control t

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-07 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Hugh, Wilhelm: IF the new standAlone builder forces the inclusion of spurious "development properties" to each control, I for one shall not be upgrading. At present, at least we can set the custompropertysets to remove any spurious rev-IDE crap if migrating a stack from RevIDE to MC-IDE

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-07 Thread Hugh Senior
Wilhelm: IF the new standAlone builder forces the inclusion of spurious "development properties" to each control, I for one shall not be upgrading. At present, at least we can set the custompropertysets to remove any spurious rev-IDE crap if migrating a stack from RevIDE to MC-IDE, but if it become

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-07 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
Another additional remark: I just looked at Bug report 2217 which I sent on Sept 20, 2004, five years ago. Report #2217 "New troubles with standalone building and players for multi-fields stacks" is still labeled as "new" A last commentary from my side had been a

Re: Standalone Building

2009-10-07 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
ack "Testcolors 1600" in file <http://www.sanke.org/Software/RevTestStacks.zip>: Subject: New troubles with standalone building and players for multi-fields stacks The tests described below were conducted on a Windows XP machine with 2.5 GHz. The standalone build time for my

Standalone Building

2009-10-07 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
Thanks for the clarification about a new process for standalone building in Rev version 4. From Richard's quote of the v4 engine change log: In order to achieve this, it has been necessary to implement the core operation of standalone building in the (ide) engine. This means that