RE: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update

2003-06-17 Thread Ryan Darby
I think that Matteo means the financial losses made by people are private. The scam itself is very public, and no one would disagree. Such forums as ours are the most effective way to do it, but not everyone will want to make public that they were taken in. On the other hand, the more that is made

Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update

2003-06-17 Thread Michael Farmer
Actually Matteo, this is not a private affair, it is a very very public affair. The entire meteorite community was scammed, they pulled it over on collectors, dealers and even scientists, much time and money has been wasted. For your information, the woman has refused to answer my emails, so I put

Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group

2003-06-17 Thread Howard Wu
Becase diogenites were once named Chladnite this name appears in much of the old literature. Therefore I would argue that to reuse his name would lead to some minor confusion between the two.   If you want an old death historical figure naming this Olbersite after Wilhem Olbers, the discover o

Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group

2003-06-17 Thread Dave Andrews
Hi Adam, How about honoring the great photographer of leaverites? Yousefite? ;-) Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update

2003-06-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
I agree with Mike!!! I think we do need to stick together and If these people do not make it right fast, we as the meteorite community need to put these type of people out of business! Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 > --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually Ma

Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group

2003-06-17 Thread Steve Witt
Greetings Al, Adam, List, My thoughts went to Dr. Nininger also, but since he has already recieved the honor, my next thought went to the man who's responsible for alot of us having the knowledg we now have. What do you all think of "Nortonite". I think it's time to put credit where credit is due.

Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update

2003-06-17 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Ok, but is no possible call this person via phone? If never answer call the police and send him at the home of this person. Matteo --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually Matteo, this is not a private affair, it is > a very very public > affair. The entire meteorite community wa

Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group

2003-06-17 Thread fcressy
Just a quick note on this earlier post. If Chladnite should be accepted by the Nom. Comm. then the Vesta meteorites could become known as the "CHED" group; just a few letters away from becoming a real "cheesy" group. ;-) - Original Message - From: fcressy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Adam Hupe

Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group

2003-06-17 Thread fcressy
Hello Mark, Adam and all, At one time Diogenites were known as Chladnites so I have to agree with Mark here, but I think Norton already beat him to it. In "The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites" page 153, Norton states, "It seems a shame that Diogenes was selected over Chladni for the honor of

Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group

2003-06-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Adam, Greg and list,   Ernst Florenz Friedrich Chladni was the first person to propose meteorites and fireballs were related and the to suggest they were bodies from space, so with that in mind.  I will suggest Chladnite.   Two people that have done a lot for meteorites in the last thirty yea

Re: [meteorite-list] flow lines GALLERY

2003-06-17 Thread Steve Schoner
Lotsa rocks. I see "leverites" none with flow lines such as one would see on freshly fallen meteorites. Steve Schoner/ams --- M Yousef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hiii ALL; > > IF YOU LIKE, please have a look at these nice flow > lines on different types > of rocks: > > http://www.alifyaa.c

Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group

2003-06-17 Thread almitt
Hi Adam and all, Adam Hupe wrote: It was suggested that it be named in honor of some famous pioneer in the field of meteoritics or some closely related. I would like to see Harvey Nininger's name associated with it if at all possible. He has the honor though, of having a meteoritic mineral named

[meteorite-list] Ringwoodite

2003-06-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, Is Ringwoodite found in Lunar or Martian meteorites? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Need help naming new group

2003-06-17 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, It is our pleasure to announce NWA 1877, (provisional) the second so-called "Olivine Diogenite" in private hands. This makes number five including the three Antarctic finds. The significance of it being number five is that it now qualifies to be promoted to main group status i

[meteorite-list] Carbonaceous Chondrites

2003-06-17 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone,   Here is an interesting web page devoted to the different types of carbonaceous chondrites (very understandable)   http://www.angelfire.com/on2/daviddarling/carbchon.htm   -Walter --www.branchmeteorites.com

Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain

2003-06-17 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 05:16 AM 6/18/2003 +0300, you wrote: No one knows the victims of the big older falls, like Nantan, and if we count also Tunguska as a hit, only dead reindeers was reported, but I can bet, also people were died, but in these cases the russians didn´t give / get the information. The circumstances

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: eBay sellers/buyers guide (to date)

2003-06-17 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Bob, >whoever you are, PREPARE TO DIE!!! Well, here now, no need to get violent!!! I think we should all change our ebay ids to match out favorite meteorite names. I had considered changing my ebay id to MY favorite meteorite name. -Walter (aka, "Donga Donga") --

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites on Mars?

2003-06-17 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 11:32 PM 6/16/2003 -0600, you wrote: List: With all the Probes heading for Mars I have been pondering a bit on how "meteorites" on mars might differ from those on earth? How would an asteroid fragment react with the atmosphere of Mars with its different composition and density? Does the Martia

[meteorite-list] Re: eBay sellers/buyers guide (to date)

2003-06-17 Thread Bob Martino
Curses! CURSES!!! I was SURE that my eBay user name, "Zubenelgenubi," would be the last on the list! Alas! "zonule" has taken my coveted spot! THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! Gary Hansen, whoever you are, PREPARE TO DIE!!! :) - Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ Can you really name a star? Read the Truth

Re: [meteorite-list] flow lines GALLERY

2003-06-17 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
not like... --- M Yousef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hiii ALL; > > IF YOU LIKE, please have a look at these nice flow > lines on different types > of rocks: > > http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/possibles/flns/index.html > > > REGARDS > Mohamed H. Yousef > ---

Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain

2003-06-17 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Hello, Mike, Mark and the list, to me it sounds a legend, no people has been killed by meteorites. Maybe the keyword is "reported". In earlier history you can find several cases, like 1829, July, US, an indian killed (Athenm 1836, p. 803). I have tried to find information about some old finnish

Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain

2003-06-17 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Philip, Appropriate quote. I was just thinking of that one! -Walter -- www.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: "Philip R. Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain

2003-06-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Ken and list,   That's funny.  Me and Ken were both thinking about the same article.  For what it's worth fake meteorite articles seem to drop off by the 1920's.  Perhaps I will research the associated press history shortly.   Mark   - Original Message - From: magellon Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain

2003-06-17 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 09:24 PM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: Is there other evidence that two boys were killed in 1896 by a meteorite? I was under the impression that there were no reported cases of people being killed by meteorites. There are historical accounts of meteorites killing people. Some are probably mor

Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain

2003-06-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
  Hello Mike and List,   Mike asked "Is there other evidence that two boys were killed in 1896 by a meteorite?  I was under the impression that there were no reported cases of people being killed by meteorites."   This article dates pretty close to the time of our "Meteorite Fiend".  The late 1800'

Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain

2003-06-17 Thread magellon
Mike, Mark and All, Actually there are lots of News articles of meteorite fatalities. The question is "Are they true?" This news article may help: http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2003-March/018369.html When there is no meteoritic evidence on record, I catalogue it as false. Best,

Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain

2003-06-17 Thread tett
Hello Mark and List,   Is there other evidence that two boys were killed in 1896 by a meteorite?  I was under the impression that there were no reported cases of people being killed by meteorites.   Cheers,   Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK To: Me

[meteorite-list] Where's Spirit, Mars Express and Nozomi?

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Baalke
On the "Where's Spirit Right Now?' web page, I've modified one of the graphics to include the current positions of the Mars Express and the Nozomi spacecraft: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mer/mission/spiritrightnow.html It is the 4th graphic down, or you can go directly to the image: http://mars.jp

[meteorite-list] New Fall from China recovered

2003-06-17 Thread Thetoprok
  Congrat's! That's without a doubt, the most beautiful recovery I've ever seen. Larry

[meteorite-list] AD- Auctions ending in one hour

2003-06-17 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, Thank you for the support you have shown us regarding weekly auctions on eBay. There are plenty of good deals left for those who are looking for well discounted pricing. The eBay link is provided below: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritelab/ Thank you, once again, Ad

Re: [meteorite-list] Tumbled meteorites?

2003-06-17 Thread MuseumStore/NatureSource
I have found if you tumble one at a time using walnut shells, not grit, and keep an eye on them you don't end up with anything shiny, or with rounded corners, unless they started out that way. Corrosion inhibitor is a good idea as well. Regards, Jeanne -Original Message- From: Bill Maso

RE: [meteorite-list] Tumbled meteorites?

2003-06-17 Thread Bill Mason
Dear Museum store and meteorite collectors, If you like the look of shiny metal chunks with rounded corners this is great, But when they are done suggest you use some Vapor Phase Corrosion Inhibitor to prevent rust. Some other person wanted to use water,(gnaw!) tumble dry. Sieve and use ai

Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update

2003-06-17 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
you not are the unique to have give many money on this meteorwrong, but not put emails for show this, I know persons have give over your money and never have put similar emails...this is private affairs. Matteo --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most people didnt spend almost $20

[meteorite-list] flow lines GALLERY

2003-06-17 Thread M Yousef
Hiii ALL; IF YOU LIKE, please have a look at these nice flow lines on different types of rocks: http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/possibles/flns/index.html REGARDS Mohamed H. Yousef -- _ T

[meteorite-list] flow lines GALLERY

2003-06-17 Thread M Yousef
Hiii ALL; IF YOU LIKE, please have a look at these nice flow lines on different types of rocks: http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/possibles/flns/index.html REGARDS Mohamed H. Yousef -- _ T

Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update

2003-06-17 Thread Michael Farmer
Most people didnt spend almost $20,000 buying it, so by all means, forgive me if my patience is running a little thin. I would like you to forward this to the partners in Russia. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Laurie Kallis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday

[meteorite-list] 'Opportunity' Mars Exploration Rover Targeted For Launch June 26

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Baalke
For Release: June 17, 2003 Don Savage NASA Headquarters 202/358-1727 George H. Diller Kennedy Space Center 321/867-2468 Guy Webster Jet Propulsion Laboratory 818/354-6278 KSC Release No: 45-03 NOTE TO EDITORS/NEWS DIRECTORS: "OPPORTUNITY" MARS EXPLORATION ROVER TARGETED FOR LAUNCH JUNE 26 T

[meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain

2003-06-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Fort Wayne News City: Fort Wayne, Indiana Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1896 Page: 1   METEOR FALLS Strikes a House and Kills Two Children - Brings Rain Chichihua, Mex., July 14. - Particulars have reached here of the fall of a meteor in a small mining town of Santos Reis, this state. The meteo

[meteorite-list] NP Article, 06-1977 Claim Delays Old Woman Meteorite Research

2003-06-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Lethbridge Herald City: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada Date: Saturday, June 18, 1977 Page: 9   $1 million claim delays meteorite research work   OLD WOMAN'S MOUNTAIN, Calif. (AP) - A U.S. Marine helicopter dropped into a crevice of this rocky desert moutain Friday and plucked out a three-ton

[meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1955 Meteorite Lands Near Villiscan, Iowa (?)

2003-06-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Title: Council Bluffs Nonpareil City: Council Bluffs, Iowa Date: Saturday, July 23, 1955 Page: 6-C   The Week's Mail section, noted as "The warm and interesting events in the lives of Iowa residents as reported by the Nonparell correspondents or recounted by columnists in other newspapers."   St

Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update

2003-06-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Laurie and list,   I think there is a "preponderance of evidence" that indicates Shirokovsky is terrestrial already.  Will be interested to see what "specifics" you plan on posting.    Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com   - Original Message - From: Laurie Kallis Sent: Tuesday, J

Re: [meteorite-list] Tumbled meteorites?

2003-06-17 Thread MuseumStore/NatureSource
I have used ground walnut shells with good success for removing rust. You may have to go in and remove rust by hand from deep places, but the walnut shells are great for removing the bulk of it. I bought a bunch in Tucson one year. The only thing you'll need to watch is how many you tumble at on

Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update

2003-06-17 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I give $100 for a 100 gr. slice of Shirokovsky for put this in the meteorwrongs collection.$1/gr. for a not meteorite is a good price... regards Matteo --- Laurie Kallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to reply to the many responses I > received when I posted the > translated Shiro

[meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update

2003-06-17 Thread Laurie Kallis
I would like to reply to the many responses I received when I posted the translated Shirokovsky article. 1. Our Canadian group did not become involved with the marketing of Shirokovsky until March of this year, so we were not involved in anyway with the transactions that occured in Tucson. But,

[meteorite-list] Outer Space Meets The Australian Outback And A Bluff Is Born

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/06/17/1055828328658.html Outer space meets outback and a bluff is born By Stephen Cauchi The Age (Australia) June 18, 2003 Photo of Gosses Bluff] Picture: AFP A satellite shot of Gosse Bluff, in the Northern Territory. The deep impact of a meteorite strik

[meteorite-list] Tumbled meteorites?

2003-06-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I was thinking about trying to through a NWA 869 or a GB into my rock tumbler. I do not think putting a meteorite in water for weeks is a good idea. Is there a liquid other than water that can be safely used in a tumbler? Has any one on the list done this before, if so how does it turn

Re: [meteorite-list] New fall from China recovered

2003-06-17 Thread tracy latimer
Awww... easily one of the the cutest falls I've ever seen. Congratulations! Tracy Latimer > I just returned from 2 1/2 weeks in southeast China recovering a fall (on > or about Sept. 10, 2002) from Chenzhou in Hunan province. TKW is 7.6 kg, > sorry all will remain with me. I have a couple o

Re: [meteorite-list] New fall from China recovered

2003-06-17 Thread tracy latimer
A... easily one of the cutest falls I've ever seen. Congratulations! Tracy Latimer > I just returned from 2 1/2 weeks in southeast China recovering a fall (on > or about Sept. 10, 2002) from Chenzhou in Hunan province. TKW is 7.6 kg, > sorry all will remain with me. I have a couple of pi

[meteorite-list] Comet Collision 55 Million Years Ago May Have Kick-Started Mammal Evolution

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Baalke
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/2997404.stm Mammals' lucky space impact By Paul Rincon BBC News June 17, 2003 A comet collision with Earth around 55 million years ago may have kick-started a crucial early phase of mammal evolution. The impact could have triggered the greenhouse warming

[meteorite-list] Mysterious Blast Rocks Japan

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Baalke
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20030617p2a00m0dm013000c.html Mysterious blast rocks Chiba, Ibaraki prefectures Mainichi Shimbun (Japan) June 17, 2003 MITO -- Scores of reports of a mysterious explosion were received from southeastern Ibaraki Prefecture and northeastern Chiba Prefecture late Mon

RE: [meteorite-list] Summertime Desiccant Tune-Up

2003-06-17 Thread Michael Gallant
Hello List, Mark's advise is a good one. "Also bear in mind that used up 'wet' silica Gel in an enclosed space can actually increase the humidity (since damp silica can dry out giving off water vapor) so recharge it regularly!!. For a bit more general information on desiccants, check this o

[meteorite-list] Re: eBay sellers/buyers guide - LAST CALL

2003-06-17 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi All, OK, these are the latest revisions (below). Lots of individuals have responded and made modifications or supplied new info or submitted, so, we have a pretty extensive list, now, and arranged in alphabetical order by "eBay name." Perhaps I will try to make a second list when we are

[meteorite-list] clarification

2003-06-17 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Good morning list.I should have mentioned on the small lot of gibeon/canyon diablo I am looking for,I need between 100 and 150 grams.I'm sorry for this post.In the future I'll be more specific. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120

[meteorite-list] White stone !

2003-06-17 Thread Michel Franco
Dear List It happened that I found a strange white stone. I cut it into several slices and found inside an usual chondritic texture and that it looks very fresh, but has no crust , no crust at all, and it is not weathered. Even on the ground facing side I found no relict of any crust. This meteor

RE: [meteorite-list] Summertime Desiccant Tune-Up

2003-06-17 Thread mark ford
Ryan, Sorry Long post but here goes... Personally I use an 'organic indicating Silica gel' this turns from Yellow to Orange when 'used'. To re-use it once it has changed colour, you can put your silica gel into a cup and put it into a Microwave oven on low power for a couple of minutes, when the

RE: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte ("corkscrewing" meteorites)

2003-06-17 Thread mark ford
Hi all, If meteorites don't corkscrew then why aren't they all fully orientated? Surely the fact that they are irregular in shape and show flow lines all over the place implies that they had a turbulent flight, therefore they must have spun/spiraled ? Cheers, Mark Ford. __