[meteorite-list] my address

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
Adam, Are you happy now? You have my address. You already had it anyway if you keep any files of your sales. You sound more like Matteo every day. I realize you want more of everything but I don't understand your lemming approach. Bill __ Meteorite-l

Re: [meteorite-list] precedent

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
Adam, I'll send you my address gladly off list. I'm very interested. Bill Kieskowski -- Original message -- From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bill, > > What is your address so that my attorney, the same one I have had on > retainer for nearly two decades,

Re: [meteorite-list] Cave man

2004-11-20 Thread J. Devon
Ahtk!Lar! :o) Jeannie - Original Message - From: "Dave Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Cave man Damn, and I thought that this subject title was going t

Re: [meteorite-list] Take a look what write the BCC lunar meteorite

2004-11-20 Thread McomeMeteorite Meteorite
It has fear for this removed it From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pekka Savolainen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Take a look what write the BCC lunar meteorite Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:12:42 -0700

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Adam Hupe
Bob, It is very simple, send a type specimen to NAU or any other NomCom authorized laboratory and I will recognize your material when the NomCom assigns it an official NWA number. Using the numbers NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 will never be acceptable because the material has already been voted on. It

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers...a different viewpoint

2004-11-20 Thread JKGwilliam
This current problem will fix itself when the supplies of African and Oman meteorites dry up. Then we'll all be back to not-so-patiently waiting for new falls that never fall and hunting for individual stones and small strewnfields with always too few specimens. There will come a day when met

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Comcast Mail
Well, What do you say Adam? Shall we send Mike our NWA1877 and NWA1110 Put up ... or shut up Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Comcast Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Meteorite list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 10:52 PM Sub

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Bob, I would be glad to, and I think that specific meteorite is a great example of the problem we are facing. The Shergottite in question was widely distributed in Morocco, and many people got pieces of it. I sold under the name NWA 1068. I am not sure how to approach this one, it is unfair for p

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Comcast Mail
Yeah, But what would call them ?? BE - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Comcast Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Meteorite list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers > By the way, send m

[meteorite-list] Very serious note

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
I hate to do this, but I have told so many of the meteorite community about my wife being pregnant. I was just so excited to be a father. Like last year, my wife has lost the child again last week. I would normally prefer not to post such sensitive material to the list, but this is the only way I

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Comcast Mail
Of course not He doesn't have the balls to let a neutral person compare them. Bob E - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Comcast Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite nu

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Comcast Mail
Mike, Ive sold samples to people who bought samples from both Adam and I. They say that they are identical ( kind of hard for terrestrial rock to look identical to Martian meteorites isn't it ? ) People on this list ( who care about this issue ) respect your opinion. Im not asking you to classify

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
Now that's an honest statement. Bill -- Original message -- From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By the way, send me those meteorites, and I'll have those suckers on eBay > faster than the US Senate can raise the debt ceiling:) > Mike Farmer > - Orig

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
By the way, send me those meteorites, and I'll have those suckers on eBay faster than the US Senate can raise the debt ceiling:) Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Comcast Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Well, I could easily make a judgment, but then it is going against the rules, and while I have done that before, the only way to clean up this disaster is to start living by the rules, and if you buy something through the mail from Morocco, it should be submitted. Amgala like I said in a previou

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
I don't think our Pontiff will find that acceptable. Bill -- Original message -- From: "Comcast Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mike, > > I trust you. How about I send you a sample of my NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 and > have Adam send you his. > Then you can report your

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Bob and all, that is why I dont take shipments any more I got a few, but the only way to buy is boots on the ground, this 33 trips completed to Morocco. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Comcast Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael Farmer" <

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Comcast Mail
Mike, I trust you. How about I send you a sample of my NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 and have Adam send you his. Then you can report your opinion regarding comparison back to anyone who cares. Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> S

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Comcast Mail
Mike, If you got a shippment of meteorites from the Amgala strewnfield , would you bother to have it classified or just sell it as Amgala ? Regardless of who had the initial sample classified. NWA #'s are not proprietary. I know that people such as Adam wishes they were. If you get a shippment f

[meteorite-list] precedent

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
Adam likes to make legal claims. I can't find a single instance that might bolster his statements. I understand meteorite law, the law of the meteorite community, but it just doesn't apply to reality. Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTE

[meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
To clarify something that is obviously causing some problems in the meteorite world right now, I want everyone to know that NWA 788, 787, and NWA 482 are numbers that came from rather large or meteorites with hundreds of pieces bought during one of my expeditions. The Hupes and many other people

Re: [meteorite-list] Munich (better late than never)

2004-11-20 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
Hello everybody, I have been a bit busy lately, but I finally did it. My pictures of the Munich Show are finally available on Yahoo: Just go to this link: http://photos.yahoo.com/impactika Great photos Anne! Thanks for sharing! Regards, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. 380 Cleveland Stre

Re: [meteorite-list] Munich (better late than never)

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Anne, thanks for the great photos, I myself did not have time to even take on photo in Munich. It was great fun, and next year will be better. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: [meteorit

Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans Still Committing Fraud

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
Adam, You aren't entitled to anything by law. Don't dictate what you think may be the result of imaginary litigation. Bill -- Original message -- From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bob, > > I am entitled to use the numbers you listed because we were the l

Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans Still Committing Fraud

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
Adam, I really don't understand, assuming you're not just playing around, what you think you can accomplish with all this other than bad feelings. I understand why you need attention but this is ridiculous. Bill -- Original message -- From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans Still Committing Fraud

2004-11-20 Thread Adam Hupe
Bill, Time will tell and it is time to take out the trash! Adam - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans Still Committing Fraud > Blanket

Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans Still Committing Fraud

2004-11-20 Thread Comcast Mail
Adam You are such a friggin joke, I really cant understand how you can publicly make such an ass out of yourself. How can you really accuse other people of such atrocities as you commit them yourself? Aren't you selling NWA 788 on ebay currently? Wasn't it Mike Farmer who had that meteorite classi

Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans Still Committing Fraud

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
Blanket complaint, public warning, meteorite subsection eliminated, PULLING THE TRIGGER?? You are off base. No lawyer would even consider your rantings. Bill -- Original message -- From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dear List, > > This is a public warning

[meteorite-list] Bob Evans Still Committing Fraud

2004-11-20 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List, This is a public warning to Bob Evans to stop using the NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 designations and meteoritelab descriptions. I filed a blanket complaint claim with ebay and found out that it is considered fraudulent to use lab numbers that do not apply to your samples. It is also against

[meteorite-list] Munich (better late than never)

2004-11-20 Thread Impactika
Hello everybody, I have been a bit busy lately, but I finally did it. My pictures of the Munich Show are finally available on Yahoo: Just go to this link: http://photos.yahoo.com/impactika And enjoy! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356, www.IMCA.cc

[meteorite-list] Was Elbert King...now Smithsonian on being territorial

2004-11-20 Thread MARK BOSTICK
(Try this again...sorry if you get more then one of this same e-mail but this message just doesn't want to post - Mark) Hello Lisa King (and list), Thanks for sharing your memories of your father with us. Should you think of other little stories and would like to share them, I am sure that most

Re: [meteorite-list] ad talampaya and murchison forsale

2004-11-20 Thread Devin Schrader
ok...but its not allende that Steve is selling (murchison??), unless i missed something ealier. Devin - Original Message - From: "Michael Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Michael Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 4:00 PM Subject: [meteo

Re: [meteorite-list] Take look at what the BCC Lunar.

2004-11-20 Thread Michael L Blood
S. RAY, Please set your computer clock/date to proper time so your posts do not pop up on TOP of all of everyone's email. Thanks, Michael on 11/21/04 7:05 AM, S. Ray DeRusse at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Greetings List; > > Matteo wrote an eamil to Steve Shoner asking him what is

AW: [meteorite-list] ad talampaya and murchison forsale

2004-11-20 Thread Bernhard Rems
:) Indeed he is. Money means nothing to him, so some items are extremely expensive, but others are extremely cheap. I fully respect that kind of behaviour :-) Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: S

Re: [meteorite-list] ad talampaya and murchison forsale

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
Mike, Don't criticize Steve. He's a rare eccentric beyond such things. Like British royalty :) Bill -- Original message -- From: Michael Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Steve, > > Didn't you just tell the list how you got that allende for $2 a gram? > That's

[meteorite-list] Cave man

2004-11-20 Thread bernd . pauli
Dave darned: > Damn, and I thought that this subject title was > going to be about that campy movie starring Ringo > Star!!! ;) .. after Mike had asked: > Is this the same guy who was caught > growing marijuana while living in a > cave? .. and Bill responded that he had spent some time in a cav

[meteorite-list] Metsale.com - no end of auction fee this year

2004-11-20 Thread Bernhard Rems
Hi! As you know, I have opened metsale.com a couple of days ago (you can buy, sell and auction your meteorites there). A big thank you to all the people who have already opened an account there. Well, my intention is to give this site a good start. The more people use it, the better the auctions

Re: [meteorite-list] Cave man

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
I'm not real familiar with this frass meteorite stuff but if this guy is for real you gotta hand it to him. I just wonder if it was for fun or if he's crazy. I spent some time in a cave myself. Bill -- Original message -- From: Dave Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[meteorite-list] ad talampaya and murchison forsale

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Fowler
Hi Steve, Didn't you just tell the list how you got that allende for $2 a gram? That's quite a mark-up, or is there a typo in the price? Maybe you're trying to make up for all those freebies you gave away!! Mike ___ Hi list.I have a 2 gram frag

[meteorite-list] ad talampaya and murchison forsale

2004-11-20 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list.I have a 2 gram fragment of murchison and talampaya forsale for $225 for the 2 of them.They will come with specimen cards and both in riker boxes.I will also supply the shipping for them also.Let me know. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago

[meteorite-list] Cave man

2004-11-20 Thread Dave Schultz
Damn, and I thought that this subject title was going to be about that campy movie staring Ringo Star!!! ;) > Is this the same guy who was caught growing > marijuana while living in a > cave? > Oh wait, that was the Frass Mars rock guy. > Give it time. > Mike Farmer > > > _

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Dr. King and Collecting Allende

2004-11-20 Thread star-bits
I have about 15 copies of this book if anybody is interested. They are new and unread, but some of the covers are a bit scuffed on the corners. Price is $9 plus shipping. -- Eric Olson ELKK Meteorites http://www.star-bits.com > > That great story can also be found in one of Elbert's books

[meteorite-list] Great link!

2004-11-20 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson
Hello list, I did not know about this page, did you? http://www.space.com/news/la001_trade_000430.html Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [meteorite-list] Shipping Costs from Finland 2 thumbs way dowm

2004-11-20 Thread harlan trammell
you ain't the only one: my recent experirence with finmet  on ebay had that and for $30 i got a broken, resin filled,  meteorite a month later in the most crappily packed unit for overseas travel ever. $30, i expect fed ex overnite (like fernlea does). after a previous experience, i now videotape a

[meteorite-list] Cave man

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Is this the same guy who was caught growing marijuana while living in a cave? Oh wait, that was the Frass Mars rock guy. Give it time. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Take a look what write the BCC lunar meteorite

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Good lord, this is STEALING, putting his exact page on the BCC website. Marco should be pissed! Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Pekka Savolainen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2

Re: [meteorite-list] allende

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Steve and all, indeed, a steal considering I paid far more for it. I informed the list that one cent auctions were ending, and many took advantage of it, with most meteorites going at or below my cost! Yet list members who consider such adds spam, have no problem going to my website and paying $6

Re: [meteorite-list] Take a look what write the BCC lunar meteorite

2004-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Thank you so much. your Lunar meteorite finds are enthralling. My Lunar and 3 differed Martian finds are pitiful when compared to your meteorite ranch in central Bushland. - Original Message - From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent

[meteorite-list] When a person climbed on the mirrors

2004-11-20 Thread McomeMeteorite Meteorite
Mr.BCC I not have write to Steve Schoner, others have write to himMr.Badalotti have take off the fake lunar material from the site after have seen how many emails against of you its available in the web, in first in the Met.List where you are well know...unfortunately. I remember you for a

Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Take look at what the BCC Lunar.

2004-11-20 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Yap, I did. pekka s McomeMeteorite Meteorite wrote: mistake, I not have write to Schoner, others have write to him... From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Take look at what the BCC Lunar. Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:05:17 -0600 Greetings List;

[meteorite-list] RE: Take look at what the BCC Lunar.

2004-11-20 Thread McomeMeteorite Meteorite
mistake, I not have write to Schoner, others have write to him... From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Take look at what the BCC Lunar. Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:05:17 -0600 Greetings List; Matteo wrote an eamil to Steve Shoner asking him wh

Re: [meteorite-list] Take a look what write the BCC lunar meteorite

2004-11-20 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Just to let You know, Mr. DeRusse, I have informed Marco Langbroek in DMS, you are using their material without permission; http://www.bccmeteorites.com/DMSid.html You have just removed the link to DMS-site...very nice indeed. Here we call people like those as thieves. You sure know the health-prob

[meteorite-list] Take look at what the BCC Lunar.

2004-11-20 Thread S. Ray DeRusse
Greetings List; Matteo wrote an eamil to Steve Shoner asking him what is this? And Steve Shoner asnswered in part. What is this As far as I remember I made no agreement with Ray DeRusse other than to trade a sample of Takysie Lake for some of his so called "stellar grains." I have made no c

[meteorite-list] allende

2004-11-20 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi again list. I just got my very first piece of allende from mike farmer,after winning it on ebay.A 13 gram individual for $26.00.If you ask me,A STEAL fer shure.Thanks again mike. steve arnold = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I.

RE: [meteorite-list] Wilcox Playa (Arizona) Meteorite

2004-11-20 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Bob (and list), Bob noted: “..I made another WP find on 2004 March 07..” Congratulations on another find Bob. Bob asked, "When was this find made?" I was not sure last morning when I made that web page. Since then I have talked with the finder, his wife and his brother, who was in town at th

[meteorite-list] Neuschwanstein Porcellan casts,1,2,3

2004-11-20 Thread Nelson
Dear List, I've now rec'd all three of the wonderful porcellain models of the three Neuschwanstein meteorites from Dieter and Gabrielle Heinlein. They are hand colored , directly cast from the original meteorites.(You can even see the flow lines!!) For those of you, real connoisseur types, that lov

[meteorite-list] ebay add

2004-11-20 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi and good morning list.I have 1 ebay auction ending in 9 hours chicago time.Around 6 pm chicago time.A nice orientated piece of TAZA iron,shaped like a bear claw.I also have 2 on going ending tomorrow about the same time.A 62 gram individual of NWA 788, and a 100.1 gram slice of NWA 904,collectio

RE: [meteorite-list] AW: [ I.M.C.A. ] Re: [Fwd: S. Ray DeRusse...]

2004-11-20 Thread McomeMeteorite Meteorite
I have some friends lawyers, I see what say but DeRusse have to go out from this world with this fakes From: "Bernhard Rems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'M come Meteorite Meteorites'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] AW: [ I.M.C.A. ] Re: [Fwd: S. Ray DeRusse...

Re: [meteorite-list] Muhamed Shamseldean?

2004-11-20 Thread meteoriteshow
I agree... It's seems to be a scam to me as well. Frederic Beroud www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA #2491 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Muhamed Shamseldean? > I'm surprised I never saw

[meteorite-list] AW: [ I.M.C.A. ] Re: [Fwd: S. Ray DeRusse...]

2004-11-20 Thread Bernhard Rems
Matteo, it's not that JPL could "eliminate this person forever" or close his site. I suggest you hire a lawyer and do it yourself, but I think that the chances are not the best, actually. You could spend a lot of money with little outcome. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: M come

[meteorite-list] Muhamed Shamseldean?

2004-11-20 Thread joseph_town
I'm surprised I never saw a comment about this. This guy's email did originate in Egypt. I figured it's a scam. Egyptian export is very strict. Where did he ever get the idea that he could find a partner here? Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAI