Re: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:06:58 -0500, "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The author, Firestone, is a "real" scientist, >but the crazy comet made out of a supernova >he gets from the site holder of this web site: > Here's what another real scientist

Re: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Congratulations, Darren! You are the road to discovering the Ultimate Weapon! It isn't the Death Star from Star Wars, or the X-Ray Laser, or the Hydrogen Bomb, no, no, no, no... It's the Hyper Kinetic Gun! A one ton slug of iron accelerated in a rail gun to 1% of the speed of light t

Re: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Darren, Pete Pete, and List, Firestone's notions are not new. From the year 2000, this is Firestone's paper on the evidences of episodes of irradiation in the historic past. The evidence is quite good; the work solid; the supposition that a supernova is responsible is reasonable, but

Re: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:27:27 -0400, "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >While critical thinking and skepticism are healthy in science, so is a >certain amount of objectivity. >scrutiny (see current issue of "Astronomy"), I think I'll wait for a more >detailed paper before judging Mr Fir

Re: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread Pete Pete
That would be "condemn"... ahem... From: "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:27:27 -0400 Greetings, all, I find it curious you would condem a theory simply on a

Re: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread Pete Pete
Greetings, all, I find it curious you would condem a theory simply on a vague media notification - that was released the day before the official announcement. (Where did you dig up the contradictory evidence that a shotgun pellet travelling at 1,000 kph WILL penetrate a mammoth tusk? I was unsu

Re: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:04:26 -0400, "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Why do you call this a "crackpot" theory? Among other things, the idea that material from a supernova would condense into a "comet like object", that this 10-kilometer wide "comet like object" struck North America 13,

RE: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread star-bits
It is a crackpot theory because any supernova explosion 250 light years away that happened 40k years ago would be a major object in the night sky, not to mention that the gamma rays from a supernova that close would have wiped out ALL life on earth not just a few mammoths. -- Eric Olson ELKK

RE: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread Pete Pete
Why do you call this a "crackpot" theory? Regards, Pete From: Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:35:00 -0400 http://newswire.ascribe.org/cgi-bin/behol

[meteorite-list] Crackpot impact theory

2005-09-24 Thread Darren Garrison
http://newswire.ascribe.org/cgi-bin/behold.pl?ascribeid=20050923.103123&time=11%2050%20PDT&year=2005&public=0 Fri Sep 23 11:50:07 2005 Pacific Time Supernova Explosion May Have Caused Mammoth Extinction BERKELEY, Calif., Sept. 23 (AScribe Newswire) -- A distant supernova that explod

Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5

2005-09-24 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I have control another my IMB, its NWA 1808, well, in this meteorite the melt have many metal in grains, and the difference from melt and normaly matrix is not many visible, see photo http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/NWA1808.JPG Matteo --- Jeff Kuyken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scrit

Re: [meteorite-list] more Capot Rey pictures.....

2005-09-24 Thread Bob King
Hi List, Thanks Carsten for all the great photos of Capot Rey. One thing that does not show up in the photos very well however is the appearance of the metal in the dark channels. There are some typical flecks but in the piece I have, much of the metal is drawn out into thin, curving lines that

Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey IMB

2005-09-24 Thread drtanuki
Dear Carsten, Thank you!!! If it is an IMB then it is worth more and certainly a very beautiful one. I would suggest that you also send him a small piece of the H5 portion so that he can confirm that they indeed are from the same meteorite. Maybe you have two different meteorites? Great job.

[meteorite-list] Capot Rey IMB

2005-09-24 Thread Gi-po Meteorites
Hello List, to bring some light into the discussion about my Capot Rey IMB i wrote a email to Ted Bunch and asked him if he would like to do the classification. I attached some pictures of Capot Rey IMB to this mail, and his answer was: Hello Ted, > > i have a meteorite, about that there is a d

[meteorite-list] Metachondrite ?

2005-09-24 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2005/pdf/5218.pdf ah...I have see a news, my NWA 1058 its a metachondrite. Matteo --- Jeff Kuyken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > Hi Martin, > > I can certainly see what you are saying but that was > not really my point. My > point is that it is no

Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5

2005-09-24 Thread Martin Altmann
It is, according to that what I read on their hp. and this time you're acting exemplarily :-) "It is every IMCA member's responsibility and pleasure to offer help and assistance to fellow members in order to ensure specimens are genuine" And if I the "ByLaws"...they are full of phrases, which cou

Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5

2005-09-24 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Does not serve the IMCA to seek a laboratory where to do the analysis...here in Italy if you want I have the laboratory where analyzed my NWA's, send to this a piece and you have the analysis. Matteo --- Martin Altmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > Hi again too, > > and again I say: Holy

[meteorite-list] Mark Fe wrote:

2005-09-24 Thread Dana
Mark Fe wrote: > >>Hi Doug and List > >>Actually, there are chared and carbonized stumps within flows. Simple > google >>search turn this up: >>http://www.internacional.edu.ec/publicaciones/arco_iris/001/english/magazine0 > 01b.htm >>A piece of burned bone which had been carbonized would leave a

Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5

2005-09-24 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi again too, and again I say: Holy IMCA do something for your image and find a place, where this IMB-Capot-Rey will be examined. Here in Germany you have to beg the few universities on your knees, that they accept something, which has chondrules inside and you can wait up to 3 years for a result.

Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5

2005-09-24 Thread Martin Altmann
Hey, but this NWAxxx on his page now, is really evident, isn't it? Just wrote also, that I have no scruples, if I cut a Juancheng or my Chiang Khan and it turns out to be a cool breccia, to call it a breccia, although it isn't explicitely mentioned in the catalogue. To be constructive, I just sugg

[meteorite-list] more Capot Rey pictures.....

2005-09-24 Thread Gi-po Meteorites
Hi List, here are some more pictures of a Capot Rey slice: www.gi-po.de/ebayfolder/list/list2.htm Greetings, Carsten -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 23.09.2005 ___

Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5

2005-09-24 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hello again, Again, you have missed my point. I am simply saying that the proper science should be done to confirm it as an IMB. No-one is saying it's not a beautiful and very striking meteorite but do you dissagree that this meteorite should not be properly studied? Cheers, Jeff - Original

Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5

2005-09-24 Thread drtanuki
Dear Martin and List, Respectfully Martin, because it has not be classified by a qualified scientist. An IMB commands a different price than a breccia. Best, Dirk --- Martin Altmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > why it should not be an IMB? > Maybe you have in mind, if you think

Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5

2005-09-24 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Jeff, why it should not be an IMB? Maybe you have in mind, if you think to an IMB, only such optically on first glimpse uniformly looking black IMBs like Cat Mountain or el Kachla, as they have only a poor contrast between melt and clasts? An IMB has not to have lost all chondritic structures,

[meteorite-list] Ebay warning on a member request percentage on paypal payments

2005-09-24 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello Only for inform a member of Ebay sale meteorites on Ebay ask the percentage for the payments with paypal after you have ended the auction, not write this in the text of the auction. If you want have the info of who is this person email me in private. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chine